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Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 01:18 AM
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I am interested in getting a rifle from them and I would like to hear any positive or negative feed back. Thanks
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 01:30 AM
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Robert is a great smith running a really tight ship... I was one of the first ones to come visit their shop. They are putting out some really really cool products at a fantastic price... lots of intestine things in the works that I am not at liberty to talk about. Stop in and talk to the guys you won't regret it... and drool over the 26 nossler they built 2
Sombody smells like fried borritos...
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 01:53 AM
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I think they're pretty busy. I never could get through on Tuesday. Should be a good sign. I'm really wanting one from them too
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 01:54 AM
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Robert is a great smith running a really tight ship... I was one of the first ones to come visit their shop. They are putting out some really really cool products at a fantastic price... lots of intestine things in the works that I am not at liberty to talk about. Stop in and talk to the guys you won't regret it... and drool over the 26 nossler they built 2 What kind of intestine things are they building?
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:03 AM
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They are a ton of help and will spend all day answering your questions! I just dropped off a remington short action with them that is going to be turned in to a 260 AI. I can't hardly wait for the build to be done!!
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:10 AM
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They are a ton of help and will spend all day answering your questions! I just dropped off a remington short action with them that is going to be turned in to a 260 AI. I can't hardly wait for the build to be done!! I may have to put them to the test on the all day part!
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:21 AM
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I hope we hear how it shoots with MV reports. I'm also very curious as to how it cycles when moving fast.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:35 AM
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:36 AM
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I see that several rifles on their site say "Accuracy Guaranteed", but I can't find an accuracy guarantee anywhere on their site. Are they guaranteed to shoot 5 MOA or .25 MOA or somewhere in between?
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:45 AM
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makes me want to pick up a cheap 700!
I'm interested in hearing the FPS too!
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:28 AM
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This is a guy from a user on another site that recently had a 260AI built by Alamo Precision. From what I've seen/heard from Robert, pretty much all of their guns will shoot .5moa, but some may be capable of .25moa. The owner of this gun got a 1.5" group at 400yrds while fire forming his loads. Out of a 24" barrel this was his load and velocities 130g berger hunting, h4831sc powder, cci 200 primers, lapua brass 45.0 grains - 2674 fps 26 - Extreme sp 46.5 grains - 2769 fps 16 - Extreme sp 49.0 grains - 2886 fps 26 - extreme sp 49.5 grains - 2905 fps 54 - extreme sp and pressure signs A few of the accuracy pics
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:33 AM
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It depends. Do you have all the parts and just need them to assemble or do you need to them to order everything for you? Alamo Precision would give you the best answer on this. I know they've got quite a few orders right now, so it might be a bit.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:37 AM
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I hope we hear how it shoots with MV reports. I'm also very curious as to how it cycles when moving fast. They will be installing a Wyatt's magazine box to hopefully avoid any cycling issues.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 04:07 AM
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makes me want to pick up a cheap 700!
I'm interested in hearing the FPS too! SHHHHHHHH! That's my idea! But that cheapo 700 is my hunting rig and I don't wanna get in a huge line by the time I take it in!
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 04:12 AM
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Based on those velocities I'd suggest H-4350 instead. My straight up .260 was running 130's @ 2850 fps on a brand new barrel. 200 rounds later and formed brass it was making 2950 fps MV. Why I switched over to 140's after 500 of those 130's.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 04:21 AM
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I was surprised at the velocities as well. Everything I've read says RL 17 and 4831SC are the powders to use with the 260. I may have to check into the H-4350 as well.
JG - are you shooting a 24" or 26" barrel?
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 04:22 AM
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Bullfrog - I found a SA Remington from 1973 that I used for the build, there are some decent deals out there if you keep an eye out.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 04:46 AM
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Oh I'm fine with taking mine in! It's just an ADL in 270. I really REALLY. Want to build a 6.5 CM off it.
Or if I can convince a buddy to get me started loading, 6.5X284
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 12:20 PM
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An LA 6.5 Creed? Will your's be the first? I've heard of 6.5-284 being both Long Action and Short Action, but not 6.5 Creedmoore. Any benefits?
I'd have to ruminate 280/280ai in that mix if I had an old LA 700.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 01:00 PM
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I was surprised at the velocities as well. Everything I've read says RL 17 and 4831SC are the powders to use with the 260. I may have to check into the H-4350 as well.
JG - are you shooting a 24" or 26" barrel? While not a 260AI I did play with RL17 in my 7mm-08AI a few weeks ago. I was just short of a node and was seeing 2880 with 162gr Amax. I'm going to see if I can get that into that node but I'm going to wait for summer to go farther into development.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:47 PM
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I've know Robert for a while, even before they opened the shop. He's a straight up guy who knows rifles and how to make them shoot little bug holes. If he tells you something you can take it to the bank. You'll never meet a more honest person and you surely won't regret doing business with him. He's got a lot of rifles to build at the moment but my guess is that as more of his work gets out the reported results will cause his backlog to keep getting bigger and wait times longer but it will be worth the wait. Robert and Jason have a first class shop set up. They are in it for the long haul.
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 02:53 PM
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So everybody knows who this guy is, but nobody knows what the accuracy guarantee actually is?
If you're going to make an accuracy guarantee, why wouldn't that be front and center on your website and every other marketing tool you've got?
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:25 PM
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So everybody knows who this guy is, but nobody knows what the accuracy guarantee actually is?
If you're going to make an accuracy guarantee, why wouldn't that be front and center on your website and every other marketing tool you've got? You seem really concerned with an accuracy guarantee. Do you mean 3 or 5 shot groups? What kind of guarantee would impress you? I don't know anything about Alamo Precision, whether they do or don't offer a specific guarantee, but I imagine making such guarantees is a royal PITA for any rifle smith. I wonder how many customers they get who can't produce consistent enough handloaded ammo or shoot well enough to print consistent sub 1/2moa groups. And I'm not saying I can, I just see talk of consistent 1/4-1/2 moa groupings get thrown around a lot and I'm curious...
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:30 PM
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So everybody knows who this guy is, but nobody knows what the accuracy guarantee actually is?
If you're going to make an accuracy guarantee, why wouldn't that be front and center on your website and every other marketing tool you've got? You seem really concerned with an accuracy guarantee. Do you mean 3 or 5 shot groups? What kind of guarantee would impress you? I don't know anything about Alamo Precision, whether they do or don't offer a specific guarantee, but I imagine making such guarantees is a royal PITA for any rifle smith. I wonder how many customers they get who can't produce consistent enough handloaded ammo or shoot well enough to print consistent sub 1/2moa groups. And I'm not saying I can, I just see talk of consistent 1/4-1/2 moa groupings get thrown around a lot and I'm curious... I realize there are implications that come along with that guarantee. But those implications are no problem for Weatherby and other factory makers. Why should they be an issue for a custom builder charging 3x the price and up? I'm not making it up. Their website is the one that has "accuracy guarantee" on it. They just never actually say what it is (unless I'm missing it, which is why I posed the question initially). Seems very odd to guarantee accuracy but not actually tell you what level of accuracy it is. It would be like a car manufacturer offering an mpg guarantee without telling you what kind of mpg you are guaranteed to get. What's the point of a guarantee if it isn't quantified?
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Re: Alamo precision rifles
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02/27/15 03:36 PM
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I have a LA 243 Winchester. I just assumed with all the 6.5's being such a long bullet, why would a LA be an issue for a CM?
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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