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#5621683 - 02/26/15 10:22 AM Bryant 16% deer pellet
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Registered: 11/06/11
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Loc: Fort Worth
Anyone use there 16% deer pellet out west around Cisco area. The mix appears to be good and it is a alfalfa based protien. Looking for a good protien pellet

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#5622433 - 02/26/15 04:16 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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I use it in Parker county and denton county. Deer took to it right away. I use 50-50 mix of their 16% pellet and their roasted soy.
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#5622588 - 02/26/15 05:53 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Registered: 09/15/09
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Loc: Lovejoy Texas
We use Buck Ration from McKinney Feed n Seed..roasted soy bean and split corn 18% crude protien..$8.50 a 50

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#5622598 - 02/26/15 05:57 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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There deer pellet is $10 bucks a 50, maybe I should talk to them about a 50/50 blend and see what they say.
I see there are a lot of big name company's saleing protien mixes, I would imagine the local feed stores would have a better feel on what the deer in the area what and need.

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#5622713 - 02/26/15 07:09 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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What is the fiber %? What are the Calcium and Phospurus amounts? How much salt is in it? The mineral, trace mineral and vitamin package are far more important in any feed than the protein/price. Certain minerals can be very expensive to add in small amounts in a deer ration. If a feed is cheaper is usually due to what is being left out and what is added in as filler.
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#5622787 - 02/26/15 07:37 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Registered: 10/29/09
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Loc: Parker County
We are out near Cisco, just north, and have used a pellet made for goats. Yeah, i know I will be chastised for this.... banana Pretty much same protein @14%, and fairly close to fiber, calcium, phosphorous and other trace minerals as a more expensive "deer" pellet. Had a friend who owns a feed and seed store in Justin do a comparison of a brand name deer pellet, versus the bag tag I brought in and he said the goat ration (untreated) was a good deal compared to the higher priced deer pellet. We have seen considerable results in overall herd health and antler quality during a difficult drought time over the last 5 years.
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#5622829 - 02/26/15 07:54 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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The type of mineral is more important than the amount of it. Some minerals used in feeds will not be utilized by a deer. You are paying for something the deer get nothing from. It labels nice but does nothing for the deer. Goes in one end and out the other as fertilizer. You really can not compare a feed label to another feed label unless you look the ingredients then do a feed analysis to see how well they compare on an as fed basis.
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#5622903 - 02/26/15 08:29 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Been using using it for years, I get it directly from the mill in Aledo.

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#5622954 - 02/26/15 08:51 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Registered: 11/06/11
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Loc: Fort Worth
That is where I was going to pick some up sat morning on the way out. Do they sell it somewhere else besides the plant?
Stxranchman
I will post the break down when I get it and you can give me your thoughts.
I don't see the deer pellet on there website.

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#5622996 - 02/26/15 09:11 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Halfadozen]
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Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
We are out near Cisco, just north, and have used a pellet made for goats. Yeah, i know I will be chastised for this.... banana Pretty much same protein @14%, and fairly close to fiber, calcium, phosphorous and other trace minerals as a more expensive "deer" pellet. Had a friend who owns a feed and seed store in Justin do a comparison of a brand name deer pellet, versus the bag tag I brought in and he said the goat ration (untreated) was a good deal compared to the higher priced deer pellet. We have seen considerable results in overall herd health and antler quality during a difficult drought time over the last 5 years.


I won't chastise you. In fact, Dr. James Jensen, et al, at A&M have shown that the 14% goat ration works great for deer. Also, he says that 16% protein is about the top end that deer can utilize. All of us who've been feeding 20-22% protein are spending more money than necessary.

It's easy to rationalize that if 16 is good, then 22 MUST be better.
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#5623129 - 02/26/15 10:25 PM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Loc: Parker County
STX, my friend did an analysis of ingredients between the,2 options and he said you will be fine with the untreated goat pellet. Protein, trace minerals, vitamins are well whithim standards for deer fee.but. Don't buy the higher end treated feed as it is specifically for a goat. Some sort of additive for a parasite I think.
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#5623418 - 02/27/15 07:34 AM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Junebug]
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Originally Posted By: Junebug
That is where I was going to pick some up sat morning on the way out. Do they sell it somewhere else besides the plant?


Best to look on their website and it gives you the dealers in the state, if you find one be sure to call them, I found out at one dealer that they didn't take plastic card of any kind.

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#5623428 - 02/27/15 07:41 AM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: Halfadozen]
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Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
STX, my friend did an analysis of ingredients between the,2 options and he said you will be fine with the untreated goat pellet. Protein, trace minerals, vitamins are well whithim standards for deer fee.but. Don't buy the higher end treated feed as it is specifically for a goat. Some sort of additive for a parasite I think.

Is this friend making money off of you? grin
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#5623484 - 02/27/15 08:09 AM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: dawaba]
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Originally Posted By: dawaba
Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
We are out near Cisco, just north, and have used a pellet made for goats. Yeah, i know I will be chastised for this.... banana Pretty much same protein @14%, and fairly close to fiber, calcium, phosphorous and other trace minerals as a more expensive "deer" pellet. Had a friend who owns a feed and seed store in Justin do a comparison of a brand name deer pellet, versus the bag tag I brought in and he said the goat ration (untreated) was a good deal compared to the higher priced deer pellet. We have seen considerable results in overall herd health and antler quality during a difficult drought time over the last 5 years.


I won't chastise you. In fact, Dr. James Jensen, et al, at A&M have shown that the 14% goat ration works great for deer. Also, he says that 16% protein is about the top end that deer can utilize. All of us who've been feeding 20-22% protein are spending more money than necessary.

It's easy to rationalize that if 16 is good, then 22 MUST be better.



Is there a copy of the article...Thats a tough one to swallow, and I feel Demographics come into play as far as where you are feeding and natural food source and timing of strain on a nursing Doe or Rutted out Buck...
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#5623520 - 02/27/15 08:27 AM Re: Bryant 16% deer pellet [Re: SniperRAB]
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Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Originally Posted By: dawaba
Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
We are out near Cisco, just north, and have used a pellet made for goats. Yeah, i know I will be chastised for this.... banana Pretty much same protein @14%, and fairly close to fiber, calcium, phosphorous and other trace minerals as a more expensive "deer" pellet. Had a friend who owns a feed and seed store in Justin do a comparison of a brand name deer pellet, versus the bag tag I brought in and he said the goat ration (untreated) was a good deal compared to the higher priced deer pellet. We have seen considerable results in overall herd health and antler quality during a difficult drought time over the last 5 years.


I won't chastise you. In fact, Dr. James Jensen, et al, at A&M have shown that the 14% goat ration works great for deer. Also, he says that 16% protein is about the top end that deer can utilize. All of us who've been feeding 20-22% protein are spending more money than necessary.

It's easy to rationalize that if 16 is good, then 22 MUST be better.



Is there a copy of the article...Thats a tough one to swallow, and I feel Demographics come into play as far as where you are feeding and natural food source and timing of strain on a nursing Doe or Rutted out Buck...


i've read this as well, its similar to what i have read about human protein consumption...some say that humans can only "use" about 25-30g of protein at one time, yet some still drink the shake boasting 50g of protein. in one end and out the other with most of it.
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