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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:23 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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For the record, I believe chemicals as a whole are generally good. But when corporations and government collude to hide the truth from consumers about the safety of a product, that's bad. My Mother worked for 'Rohm and Haas' as a chemical salesperson for thirty years. I know the benefits usually outweigh the downsides. If you truly believe having roundup (poison) in our bodies is a good thing, well, I'm at a loss for words. How can you ever remotely express this when round up is so much safer then the alternatives, thus the popularity. But you already know that or you would of provided an alternative when I asked you earlier.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:28 AM
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Erathkid
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BOBO, I don't drink cokes, eat many chips and only eat grass fed beef, and very little processed foods. Most of the corn produced today is used for ethanol or high fructose corn syrup anyway, not for human consumption.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:33 AM
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He won! What are you talking about. He walked out of the courtroom a winner. Monsanto sued him for $400,000 dollars, tried to take his farm, his families way of life. They lost and had to pay for cleanup, court costs, etc. Are y'all living in an alternate universe or something? Hard to believe anyone would side with Monsanto on this. I would expect a little, albeit small, compassion from a fellow farmer. SMH. You obviously have some comprehensive problems. He lost his entire crop. He purposely tried to defraud, and pass it off as his own. I don't know what kind of morals you have but that wrong on so many levels. Do you even understand what he ACTUALLY did? He tried to basically steal a GMO patent for his own use. Like I said earlier I actually farm, and no farmer I know would do that. You apparently aren't a farm nor do you have any morals.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:33 AM
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For the record, I believe chemicals as a whole are generally good. But when corporations and government collude to hide the truth from consumers about the safety of a product, that's bad. My Mother worked for 'Rohm and Haas' as a chemical salesperson for thirty years. I know the benefits usually outweigh the downsides. If you truly believe having roundup (poison) in our bodies is a good thing, well, I'm at a loss for words. How can you ever remotely express this when round up is so much safer then the alternatives, thus the popularity. But you already know that or you would of provided an alternative when I asked you earlier. On a small scale around the house use vinegar 100 proof in a spray bottle with a teaspoon of orange oil and a dash of liquid soap as a surfactant. On a larger scale, dry molasses at a rate of 20lbs per 1000 sq ft. Both work well and don't cause problems.
Last edited by Erathkid; 03/06/15 12:40 AM. Reason: left out an ingredient
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:35 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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BOBO, I don't drink cokes, eat many chips and only eat grass fed beef, and very little processed foods. Most of the corn produced today is used for ethanol or high fructose corn syrup anyway, not for human consumption. Ok. Like I said we use to own a grain elevator... I actually know how buys corn. Might want to check out the ingredients on every thing you eat, I assure you it's not sweet corn.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
[Re: Erathkid]
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03/06/15 12:36 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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For the record, I believe chemicals as a whole are generally good. But when corporations and government collude to hide the truth from consumers about the safety of a product, that's bad. My Mother worked for 'Rohm and Haas' as a chemical salesperson for thirty years. I know the benefits usually outweigh the downsides. If you truly believe having roundup (poison) in our bodies is a good thing, well, I'm at a loss for words. How can you ever remotely express this when round up is so much safer then the alternatives, thus the popularity. But you already know that or you would of provided an alternative when I asked you earlier. On a small scale around the house use vinegar in a spray bottle. On a larger scale, dry molasses at a rate of 20lbs per 1000 sq ft. Both work well and don't cause problems. Lol.... Ya that will work great on my farm. I can't handle your nutty mind set any more. Think about how much molasses you would need for the U.S. ag market... That's an ecological disaster waiting to happen.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:41 AM
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Erathkid
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I'm fruity huh...A nutcase maybe, fruity, uh, no.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:44 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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I'm fruity huh...A nutcase maybe, fruity, uh, no. Alright nuts it is. Best of luck to ya sir.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 12:46 AM
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Erathkid
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Hey, I just got a brainstorm. Plant sorghum and you could have a steady supply of molasses. Kind of a perpetual growing machine. Man and nature working as one. A symbiotic relationship. Just think, butterflies, puppies, everybody loves puppies. What say ye?
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 01:06 AM
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He won! What are you talking about. He walked out of the courtroom a winner. Monsanto sued him for $400,000 dollars, tried to take his farm, his families way of life. They lost and had to pay for cleanup, court costs, etc. Are y'all living in an alternate universe or something? Hard to believe anyone would side with Monsanto on this. I would expect a little, albeit small, compassion from a fellow farmer. SMH. You obviously have some comprehensive problems. He lost his entire crop. He purposely tried to defraud, and pass it off as his own. I don't know what kind of morals you have but that wrong on so many levels. Do you even understand what he ACTUALLY did? He tried to basically steal a GMO patent for his own use. Like I said earlier I actually farm, and no farmer I know would do that. You apparently aren't a farm nor do you have any morals. WOW! Immoral, I'd rather be immortal, but I'll take what I can get
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 04:32 AM
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It got even better. Vinegar or molasses to farm with Get ready to pay 140x more for everything you buy now.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 02:51 PM
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It got even better. Vinegar or molasses to farm with Get ready to pay 140x more for everything you buy now. Don't for get the increase amount of tilled ground to grow that much milo
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 03:24 PM
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It got even better. Vinegar or molasses to farm with Get ready to pay 140x more for everything you buy now. Don't for get the increase amount of tilled ground to grow that much milo And we all know that farm land is becoming less and less available. As people move and cities grow the farm land is getting lost. Couple that with an increasing population and we have issues. Issues that need and require the use of technology in agriculture to solve. Of course even something as simple as that some people don't understand.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 05:29 PM
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I've finally figured it out. You guys have signed contracts with Monsanto. 'Nuff said. I don't blame you for taking sides. They're watching you.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 06:06 PM
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I did work for Monsanto for about a year before I went back to Texas A&M agrilife research to help run a soil chemistry and fertility research program and get my masters. Before that I worked in a cotton cytogentics program. Pair that with a soil and environmental plant science degree and I would say I have a decent background and experience level with this subject. I've actually dealt with the products and research on them. Much better than saying what I've seen on the Internet and passing it off as fact.
There's no feasible method to feed the world without GMOs and herbicide useage? If you're against roundup then you need to be against every other herbicide.
And molasses? Go tell a farmer they Ned to put out 900 lbs of molasses an acre and see how they react lol.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/06/15 08:52 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I've finally figured it out. You guys have signed contracts with Monsanto. 'Nuff said. I don't blame you for taking sides. They're watching you. Nope- again keep up--------already said I buy DuPont
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/07/15 02:10 PM
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I just watched a show on Netflix called Food Inc.
Talked about Monsanto seed patents etc.
It was very interesting and showed many examples of small farmers being put out of business by not following the "big" food company rules of how to raise their crop/livestock. Chicken, eggs, cows, grain etc. it also shows how large company's are changing the genetics of the animals we eat to be more profitable. Most of the changes are disgusting, especially chickens.
My wife will only eat meat that comes from the grocery store. After watching that movie, her perspective has changed and now is "trying" to eat wild game, local veggies, and beef from our friends ranches.
Shop more at farmers markets and stay away from commercialized chicken.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/07/15 07:09 PM
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Ya know a 2 headed chicken will eat twice as much and grow twice as fast . . . .
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/07/15 07:23 PM
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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Wait-molasses is a herbicide?
I'm a dead man.....
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/08/15 05:53 AM
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Found this article interesting: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/03/science-doubters/achenbach-textDeals with why reasonable people doubt science. One of the areas (among many) mentioned was GMOs. Doesn't go into much detail about any specific areas but looks more at how in today's world people are much more likely to doubt the scientific consensus.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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Hirogen, lots of folks don't believe in science these days. Shameful.
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Re: Food Plot Language / Unbelievable
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03/09/15 03:36 PM
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I just watched a show on Netflix called Food Inc.
Talked about Monsanto seed patents etc.
It was very interesting and showed many examples of small farmers being put out of business by not following the "big" food company rules of how to raise their crop/livestock. Chicken, eggs, cows, grain etc. it also shows how large company's are changing the genetics of the animals we eat to be more profitable. Most of the changes are disgusting, especially chickens.
My wife will only eat meat that comes from the grocery store. After watching that movie, her perspective has changed and now is "trying" to eat wild game, local veggies, and beef from our friends ranches.
Shop more at farmers markets and stay away from commercialized chicken.
That documentary as well as Seeds of Death and King Corn are very eye opening. I understand that there might be some propaganda sprinkled in, but one thing that has been tested over and over is the nutritional value of the GMO crops and they do not have as much nutrients as organic. I eat all organic for the health benefits and try to obtain as much organic meat as possible through hunting. Time will tell if the chemicals are truley harmful, but like I said before, I am not ok with being a guinea pig.
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