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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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A number one reason I went to it was the ability to change dies as needed, and none of them loose their setting. I can literally go from seating 7 Rem Mag bullets (two days ago) to full length sizing 22-250, to decapping 6.5 Creedmoor as fast as I want. The die does not screw into the press. The locking ring of the die fits into a slot that prevents vertical movement of the die, yet allows it to move front to back as needed.
The shell holder is universal. One shell holder that is two moving halves, will hold everything except my .223. In that case I have to take some screws out and flip the halves around. Rifle, giant rifle, pistol, same shell holder. That design allows the case to move left to right as needed. The last little feature I think is so cool is there is atube below the shell holder that spent primers go into, and the tube is connected to a jar. No more spent primers on the floor.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/26/15 09:41 PM
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Have they made it to where you can use the micrometer stems in the co-ax? Bought one 2 months ago and it clears all my Redding Comp Dies. Wish I had gone to this press years ago.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/26/15 10:50 PM
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it also has about 3x the mechanical advantage of a "C" type press which makes it much more consistent and easier to deal with large batches of 'big' calibers... your stroke remains smooth and no jerking.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/26/15 11:08 PM
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I think they've changed the yoke dimensions on the latest revision of the press so that you can. Not sure when the change came along though. I bought my Co-Ax eight or nine years ago and some die bodies had to be changed out. I think the newest press is the A3 version, but I wouldn't swear to it. I was close. But no cigar. The latest version is the B3 and it can handle micrometer dies and the like. Mine is a little older and is the B2 version. If you were to have an even older still Co-Ax it would be the B1, which is just like the B2 except for the priming system which was improved.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 01:55 AM
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So when a new Co-ax is purchased will it be the B3? I don't think these just sit around waiting to be sold and one could end up with an older version. I guess when I purchase one I'll need to make sure it's the B3.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 02:36 AM
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So when a new Co-ax is purchased will it be the B3? I don't think these just sit around waiting to be sold and one could end up with an older version. I guess when I purchase one I'll need to make sure it's the B3. I do not think there are any B2 versions left on shelves anywhere. They were sold out across the country during the last mad dash. The one I bought last year was missing a packet of parts. That was sent promptly after I spoke with them on the phone.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 02:44 AM
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$463.00 wow does loadem for ya?
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 02:59 AM
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SURELY you can find one cheaper than that. Yeah, yeah, I know----don't call you Surely.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 03:14 AM
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Found them cheaper but no one has them in stock. Forester says they are making them as fast as they can. May have to check them out. Right now my Big Boss II is mounted to one of those Sinclair press stands. It works great and I can load where ever I want
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 03:17 AM
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Now I want one
And you can call me Surely anytime
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 03:24 AM
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your stroke remains smooth and no jerking. That is key Seriously, I love my co-ax and these guys are right on all accounts. The primer mess being contained to the tube and jar is AWESOME.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 03:35 AM
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your stroke remains smooth and no jerking. That is key Seriously, I love my co-ax and these guys are right on all accounts. The primer mess being contained to the tube and jar is AWESOME. What's all this talk about smooth, jerking into a small jar....huh??? What....???
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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your stroke remains smooth and no jerking. That is key You too are here for my entertainment.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 04:01 AM
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How is the runout using the Forster?
I've always had good luck with their dies, and kind of wondered about the press.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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Never have checked runout. I can, though, and let you know.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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How is the runout using the Forster?
I've always had good luck with their dies, and kind of wondered about the press. The press improves the alignment of the die with the case since the case floats with the die creating 'perfect' alignment.... perfect meaning 'really good and mo-better' than a static setup... less runout is a direct byproduct of that feature.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 04:18 AM
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A previous coworker that is the one that talked me into one of these, claims runout of less than half of what he could get from the Rock Chucker he replaced with the Coax.
With the die and shell able to float I can see where that would be the case.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 04:42 AM
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I just watched a bunch of YouTube reviews of the CO-AX. Pretty dang good engineering.
Are there any drawbacks?
When you adjust the dies for micro-bullet seating die depth or "shoulder bumpn" does the die spin/slip while you turn it?
How do you set it up for first use? now we run the ram (Redding Big Boss II) to the top of the stroke, screw die down till it touches, and a scouch more for set back.
swapping primer seating set up re; large to small ? takes too long?
Will the 1 shell holder take a .223 - .300 WSM. I saw where a guy had to get another holder jaws for his thick rimmed .45-70
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 05:21 AM
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A previous coworker that is the one that talked me into one of these, claims runout of less than half of what he could get from the Rock Chucker he replaced with the Coax.
With the die and shell able to float I can see where that would be the case.
I have heard similar reports but I have a RockChucker,Co-Ax and a CH press and I have compared and found no difference. In fact I just finished a batch of 6mm Creemoor on the RockChucker and my runout was less than .002 on all and a lot were barely moving the dial.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 03:14 PM
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I just watched a bunch of YouTube reviews of the CO-AX. Pretty dang good engineering.
Are there any drawbacks?
When you adjust the dies for micro-bullet seating die depth or "shoulder bumpn" does the die spin/slip while you turn it?
How do you set it up for first use? now we run the ram (Redding Big Boss II) to the top of the stroke, screw die down till it touches, and a scouch more for set back.
swapping primer seating set up re; large to small ? takes too long?
Will the 1 shell holder take a .223 - .300 WSM. I saw where a guy had to get another holder jaws for his thick rimmed .45-70 When using a micrometer seating die you just put a little thumb pressure on the lock ring when you make your adjustment, or you can have the ram in the down position and the plate will put pressure on the seating die. Setting up for first use is similar - get it near the bottom of the ram and then use your gauges/calipers to set the depth correctly. I have never used it for priming, I use handhelds so I can't comment there. I have done .223 -> 338LM with the shell-holder that it comes with
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 05:46 PM
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I have four Rockchuckers and leave one permanently set up for my main round. It routinely produces 0.000" - 0.001" runout, but it took quite a while of working with the sizing die (the cheapest Redding FL sizing die ironically) setup to achieve that.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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Now I want one
And you can call me Surely anytime Well, find the best price you can and put it on backorder and just wait. Surely you'll be glad you did.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 08:04 PM
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JG, your PM limit has exploded
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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Now I want one
And you can call me Surely anytime Well, find the best price you can and put it on backorder and just wait. Surely you'll be glad you did. I'm price shopping and will place a backorder for a Co-ax. Have done the same with a couple other items lately - dies, chrono.
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Re: New Co-Ax press, and new way to organize dies.
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02/27/15 09:53 PM
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Will be watching to see how long it takes, where did you backorder, everywhere?
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