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#5616261 - 02/23/15 06:30 PM 12,16, or 20x
Tff caribou Offline
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decided on a swfa ss fixed power scope for my dedicated long range rig. seems like its easily the best scope for the money.

All 3 are avaiable in MRAD, and with the mil-quad reticle. im just not sure what the best magnification will be. im leaning towards 16, so its still functional at 100 yards, but 20x would be nice for being able to see hits at a farther distance. what say ye?
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#5616278 - 02/23/15 06:36 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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I can only speak of the SWFA 1-6 and 5-20x50mm, so I can't help with the models you are considering. I can say that I am very pleased with the 5-20. It is easily my favorite for optical quality and repeatability of the turrets. The 1-6 had fogged up (had condensation inside) during the latter part of deer season so I need to look into sending it back. Other than that I am happy with it as well.

For shooting if there is not too much mirage I like the 5-20 cranked all the way up, but if there is mirage I turn it down a bit. That said the 16x would probably be your best all round choice. Just one opinion.

Hope this helps.
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#5616308 - 02/23/15 06:44 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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another quick question, do i need a 20 moa base with these scopes? just want to order once.
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#5616329 - 02/23/15 06:50 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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I have a Vortex 6-24x50, and during the THF rifle match I never turned past 16, way to much mirage. Since it's not adjustable, I wouldn't go higher then 16x. For the match 16 wasn't needed, I think most people were using around 12x or less.
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#5616350 - 02/23/15 06:56 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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that was the way i was leaning, just wasnt sure if going over 16 on a fixed power would be a hinderance or not, sounds like it could be. sounds like 16x may be the ticket. still open to more opinions. got about 3 weeks til im buying.
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#5616369 - 02/23/15 07:05 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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Yes you do need to mount it on a 20 MOA base, that's the way it was designed to be mounted.

I'd go 16X out of those options.
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#5616370 - 02/23/15 07:07 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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i thought so. no problem switching bases, just want to make sure it was necessary before replacing a perfectly good 0 moa base.
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#5616383 - 02/23/15 07:14 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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SWFA will let you trade it in.
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#5616404 - 02/23/15 07:21 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
SWFA will let you trade it in.


its just a $25 weaver base, but it works. doubt id get much for it. but, since i dont need it, i guess anything is better than nothing if they will even accept it.
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#5616411 - 02/23/15 07:22 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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6 or 10x

The others are a simple no go for me.


Edited by 6.5x47Lapua (02/23/15 07:24 PM)

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#5616438 - 02/23/15 07:27 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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I ran the 12x at Jason's range with no issues and could watch my impacts at 800 yards
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#5616467 - 02/23/15 07:37 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
6 or 10x

The others are a simple no go for me.


Would you mind elaborating on why that is? Everybody has different styles, and I'd like your take on it.
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#5616480 - 02/23/15 07:41 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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Field of view, under stress, is paramount.


You only need enough magnification to identify the target, and put a proper wind hold on the reticle. The idea that the target must take up as much space as possible in the scope is silly to me.

I fell for the high magnification trance too. My main target scope is a gen 1 razor 5-20. It rarely gets turned above 15x, and sits below 10x the majority of the time. For me, being able to transition from target to target easily requires a large field of view. At high magnification, it's real easy to get lost in transition.


Edited by 6.5x47Lapua (02/23/15 07:46 PM)

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#5616519 - 02/23/15 07:57 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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You make a good point but you are in the minority. For a pure range rifle, 10X and above is better. The higher the magnification, the smaller you can shoot, like 1 MOA out to 800. The reason I turn down on the range is because of mirage. Other than that I use all I can get. Hunting, I turn down to 5X while walking around, in case of the need for a snap shot. Slightly wobbly I still start around 8X or 10X. I've looked down my range to the end with 6X and those targets are tiny. Crank it up above 10X and it's do-able.
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#5616541 - 02/23/15 08:06 PM Re: 12,16, or 20x [Re: Tff caribou]
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Thats the beauty of ffp reticles. As soon as you can make out the reticle clearly on the target, that is all the magnification you need. If I can clearly hold 1.5 mils right of the target at 6-8x, then increasing magnification is only decreasing field of view. 1.5 mils will always be 1.5 mils. You don't need any more or any less.

The only time high magnification is helpful is during target identification. Is that a pig? Yes. Or is that the target I am supposed to be shooting? Hold 1.5 mils right for wind, and keep an eye out for other animals that may be walking into the kill zone.

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