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#5613744 - 02/22/15 07:05 PM Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT
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Looking at a range rifle for 100-500 yards. Been PMing with FiremanJG to at least help me with the basics. And he's been extremely helpful, but I figured I'd toss this out to the full THF. Narrowed it down to three:

Savage 11 VT - $580 at Dick's Sporting Goods. Comes with 24" heavy barrel, 1:10 twist, Bushnell 4-12x40 scope (I think it's the Banner), synthetic non-Accustock with dual front studs, etc.

Other options are the 700 SPS Varmint for $580 (after rebate) with no optics at BPS or the Savage 10 Trophy Hunter XP, which comes with a nice wooden stock and a better Nikon Prostaff scope.

I think my best option is to go with the Savage 11 VT, sell the Bushnell Banner for Around $80, put a SWFA SS 16x42 on it with some better rings, and start shooting. I'd be about $1,000 in it. Later, the only upgrades I'd like are a nice wooden stock and getting the bolt jeweled.

So my questions:

- Is there any reason not to go with the Savage? Compared to the Remington, I like the 24" barrel (Remington has 26"), the 1:10 twist (Remington has 1:12) and the detachable mag.
- How much would it cost later to get the bolt jeweled? This is my only scoped bolt gun and I'd like to have a nice looking bolt instead of the more tactical black one.
- Does Boyds make a stock for the heavy-barreled Savage model 10/11? I couldn't find one on their site. Anything else I've found is $250+ and might be a deal-breaker for the whole thing. I really hate synthetic stocks on expensive rifles.

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#5613782 - 02/22/15 07:19 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Go with the savage. And email boyds, then let me know what they say.
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#5613808 - 02/22/15 07:28 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Not to knock them but BPS can be expensive. I learned the hard way


Edited by Bullfrog (02/22/15 10:53 PM)
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#5613859 - 02/22/15 07:49 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: Bullfrog]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Go with the savage. And email boyds, then let me know what they say.
Will do.
Originally Posted By: Bullfrog
Not to knock them but BOS can be expensive. I learned the hard way
BOS?

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#5613870 - 02/22/15 07:54 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Like I told you before. The Savage will dang sure shoot, just be sure an order an extra ejector, ejector retaining pin, and as many ejector springs as you can get ahold of. I'll show you how to replace as needed.
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#5614234 - 02/22/15 10:10 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Thanks Jason. I'll look into that.

Anybody on the cost to get a bolt jeweled? Availability for a wood stock on a Savage model 10/11 varmint barrel action under $250?


Edited by patriot07 (02/23/15 07:54 AM)

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#5614292 - 02/22/15 10:42 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Boyds has wood laminated wood stocks starting at $100.

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#5614311 - 02/22/15 10:55 PM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Go with the savage. And email boyds, then let me know what they say.
Will do.
Originally Posted By: Bullfrog
Not to knock them but BOS can be expensive. I learned the hard way
BOS?


Fixed it. Basspro. I won't buy another that aint on sale there. I had to buy mine with my gift cards last time and I wouldn't have if it was my cash
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#5614475 - 02/23/15 07:06 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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I still prefer Remmy over Savage (just a preference) as I have never had one that did not shoot well plus accessories are plentiful. I'm sure Savage is an accurate rifle, just don't care for them. I'm surprised someone has not said Tikka. Not sure of price of a heavy barrel in 308, but I would think it would be close in price, great rep for accuracy, and an awesome trigger.
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#5614500 - 02/23/15 07:26 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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I wouldn't buy a combo and count on the scope being worth a crap and especially the rings. Find yourself an older rem varmint with wood stock and your bolt will be jeweld and it will shoot good.

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#5614505 - 02/23/15 07:33 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: Bullfrog]
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Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
I still prefer Remmy over Savage (just a preference) as I have never had one that did not shoot well plus accessories are plentiful. I'm sure Savage is an accurate rifle, just don't care for them. I'm surprised someone has not said Tikka. Not sure of price of a heavy barrel in 308, but I would think it would be close in price, great rep for accuracy, and an awesome trigger.
The Tikka lite barrel is $600 without optics. Heavy barrel is about $220 over that, with no optics and a cheap stock.

Originally Posted By: Bullfrog
Originally Posted By: patriot07
Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Go with the savage. And email boyds, then let me know what they say.
Will do.
Originally Posted By: Bullfrog
Not to knock them but BOS can be expensive. I learned the hard way
BOS?


Fixed it. Basspro. I won't buy another that aint on sale there. I had to buy mine with my gift cards last time and I wouldn't have if it was my cash
Agreed. I wouldn't even be looking at BPS if I didn't have a $500 gift card there. But based on that savage at Dick's, I might be better off selling the BPS gift card and buying the 11 VT, which is a Dick's exclusive.

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#5614522 - 02/23/15 07:42 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
Anybody on the cost to get a bolt jeweled? Availability for a wood stock on a Savage model 10/11 varmint barrel action under $250?

Contact Kampfield Custom $75 to $90
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#5614525 - 02/23/15 07:43 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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I was out at my usual dealer yesterday and he had some sort of new savage in that he just received. It was a 20" fluted threaded barrel and had a DBM on it. If I was in the market for a good starter rig I would give that a good look over the usually Rem SPS Tactical that I normally suggest. I may have to buy one just to check it out.

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#5614575 - 02/23/15 08:10 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: patriot07]
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For pure range work, I would go with the Savage VT. If you plan to hunt with it a fair amount of the time, I would go with the model 10 with the wood stock due to lighter/shorter barrel. I have one in .243 and it holds a 3/4" group for 3 shots. I do not know of a replacement stock Boyd's makes for the heavier barreled models, I would suggest calling them.

Another option that tends to get good reviews:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savage-T-Tactical-Bolt-Action-Rifle/1695199.uts
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#5614676 - 02/23/15 08:43 AM Re: Target 308 - Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Savage 11 VT [Re: GLC]
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Thanks GLC. That's pretty affordable.

Poke81, what dealer is that if you don't mind me asking? I'm probably not going to drive over to that side of the metroplex, but I'd like to call and find out what model number it was to see if BPS could order it. You can PM me if you'd like. Or do you happen to know what model it was?

JD4030, that one at Cabela's is intriguing, especially if the $100 rebate on LE series rifles applies to that one. I wish I wasn't locked into the BPS gift cards, or I wish Savage didn't do so many distributor exclusives.

Does that 5R rifling really make a difference?

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