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#5610108 - 02/20/15 01:05 PM Versatile dog question
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I have a DD, but I assume my question will be relevant to all versatile breeds as well as some true pointers. Do you prefer your dog to stay on point, or do you send them in for the flush once you reach the area? I have been hunting by myself in some thick areas, and it seems if I send her in for the flush I have a better chance of bagging a bird or two, If i walk in to flush often times the brush is to thick to make a shot in the direction of the flushing birds.

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#5610118 - 02/20/15 01:11 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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I've always done the flushing myself.
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#5610318 - 02/20/15 03:12 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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Some train to flush on command.
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#5610334 - 02/20/15 03:22 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I've always done the flushing myself.


This

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#5610349 - 02/20/15 03:31 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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always to stay on point
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#5610491 - 02/20/15 05:08 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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It's good if you can get away with it, and keep your dog steady until you give the command, but the theory is that it makes them more difficult to train.
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#5610558 - 02/20/15 05:50 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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I just got back hunting blue quail. Many times I hit the bird, feathers fly, bird goes down into the dirt tumbling. Then it takes off running. If your dog is sitting back 40 yards away waiting for you to release him you won't find that bird.

Let dog break at the gun shot so he is on top of the bird when it goes down

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#5610568 - 02/20/15 05:57 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: blanked]
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Originally Posted By: blanked
I just got back hunting blue quail. Many times I hit the bird, feathers fly, bird goes down into the dirt tumbling. Then it takes off running. If your dog is sitting back 40 yards away waiting for you to release him you won't find that bird.

Let dog break at the gun shot so he is on top of the bird when it goes down


I don't think that is what this question is about. Do you let your dogs flush the birds?
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#5610657 - 02/20/15 06:47 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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Yep I re read it. My bad

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#5610741 - 02/20/15 07:34 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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I hear those blue quail can run!
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#5610761 - 02/20/15 07:45 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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I have had dogs that would flush on command. As long as they waited for my command, I saw nothing wrong with it. I used the same dogs on pen birds (where that little trick came in handy) and wild birds without a hitch...but be advised, if you do go that route, and hunt with someone else, and their dog is not supposed to flush, they are likely to be offended when your dog busts in on the covey while theirs is "steady".

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#5610828 - 02/20/15 08:16 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: blanked
I just got back hunting blue quail. Many times I hit the bird, feathers fly, bird goes down into the dirt tumbling. Then it takes off running. If your dog is sitting back 40 yards away waiting for you to release him you won't find that bird.

Let dog break at the gun shot so he is on top of the bird when it goes down


I don't think that is what this question is about. Do you let your dogs flush the birds?


I don't think that's what the question is about either. I've hunted blues for 35 years and never even saw a Bob until the late 80's. Dogs used to Bobwhite quail will get worn out when they first encounter Blues. A good Blue quail dog will have a walking point and you better be getting up there when they get birdy. I still never let my dogs flush the birds and even had a few great ones that would get out I front of the Blues and herd them back to you and get staunch on point. We had a neighbor that didn't hunt who owned a pointer we trained in Crane when I was a kid. That dog was so great at getting in front of the birds they did a write up on him in the Odessa American Newspaper. He was a once in a lifetime animal that we started hunting when he was 5 years old just to see if he would hunt.

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#5610860 - 02/20/15 08:32 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: kpaw]
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I've also never understood people who want their dogs to stand there after the shot. I have always wanted my dogs running after the "dead" birds when they hit the ground. In West Texas they'll run down a rathole as soon as they hit the ground. I have had several dogs that would dig until they got to the bottom of the hole. For some reason they would usually get a mouth full of tail feathers and come up for air. Once they got those tail feathers and got a breath the next dive they would come up with a bird even if they got deep enough that you couldn't see the tip of their tail.

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#5610998 - 02/20/15 09:47 PM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: scalebuster]
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Originally Posted By: scalebuster
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: blanked
I just got back hunting blue quail. Many times I hit the bird, feathers fly, bird goes down into the dirt tumbling. Then it takes off running. If your dog is sitting back 40 yards away waiting for you to release him you won't find that bird.

Let dog break at the gun shot so he is on top of the bird when it goes down


I don't think that is what this question is about. Do you let your dogs flush the birds?


I don't think that's what the question is about either. I've hunted blues for 35 years and never even saw a Bob until the late 80's. Dogs used to Bobwhite quail will get worn out when they first encounter Blues. A good Blue quail dog will have a walking point and you better be getting up there when they get birdy. I still never let my dogs flush the birds and even had a few great ones that would get out I front of the Blues and herd them back to you and get staunch on point. We had a neighbor that didn't hunt who owned a pointer we trained in Crane when I was a kid. That dog was so great at getting in front of the birds they did a write up on him in the Odessa American Newspaper. He was a once in a lifetime animal that we started hunting when he was 5 years old just to see if he would hunt.
We used to have a shorthair named Bozo that did that when I was about 14. He would make a big sweeping circle and point them back to you. He also had other habits like whipping a pup or another dog that tried to steal his point. He sure was good at teaching dogs to back. He also would find and kill a skunk before he would ever point a bird. Dad said he was a pointer with a cut off tail. I now know he was most likely a shorthair.
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#5611223 - 02/21/15 05:10 AM Re: Versatile dog question [Re: scalebuster]
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We had a neighbor that didn't hunt who owned a pointer we trained in Crane when I was a kid. That dog was so great at getting in front of the birds they did a write up on him in the Odessa American Newspaper. He was a once in a lifetime animal that we started hunting when he was 5 years old just to see if he would hunt. [/quote]


Gawd I love that story. One of my favorite

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