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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 03:33 PM
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It doesn't take a cannon to shoot 1k plus, but the cannons ring the steel a lot louder.
Jason when I put a different scope on the Grendel we need to stretch its legs.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 04:35 PM
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I am having a .270 rebarreled to a 6.5x284 right now at Horizon. That was the best fit for me. Since I already had a 7mm.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 04:44 PM
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As far as 6.5-284 brass is concerned, is it only made from .284win brass? I will eventually be reloading for this gun. And I like that the 6.5-06 can be made from 3 very commonly available calibers of brass.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 05:03 PM
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I have built 2 6.5x284's on a long action. You can do more with that round on a LA if you reload. Accurate too.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 05:18 PM
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As far as 6.5-284 brass is concerned, is it only made from .284win brass? I will eventually be reloading for this gun. And I like that the 6.5-06 can be made from 3 very commonly available calibers of brass. Lapua makes 6.5-284 brass ready to go, and Cabela's even has some loaded 6.5-284 ammo on the shelves, well as much as they can keep ammo on the shelves.. It is easier to find than 284 Win brass, which has mostly faded into obscurity.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 05:29 PM
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I would personally try to find a caliber that I didn't have to form brass for. No reason to have to form brass, way too many calibers available that will easily do what you looking for that have available factory brass.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 05:32 PM
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Ive never done it, but id be willing to bet there are a few bullet options that will get your 270 out there.
I always wanted to rebarrel my 270 till I ran across some load data for a 270 and 26 inch barrel. I don't have a chrono so I go off the data I have for velocities, but the data I found suggests I can get pretty significantly better numbers than a 22-24 inch barrel.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 06:05 PM
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Ive never done it, but id be willing to bet there are a few bullet options that will get your 270 out there.
I always wanted to rebarrel my 270 till I ran across some load data for a 270 and 26 inch barrel. I don't have a chrono so I go off the data I have for velocities, but the data I found suggests I can get pretty significantly better numbers than a 22-24 inch barrel. 3 actually but only one doesn't require a non standard twist.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 06:14 PM
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What 3 are you thinking? I can come up with more if all works on paper. And to the best of my knowledge all of them can be shot through a standard. 1:10 twist although one manufacturer recommends a faster one.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 06:34 PM
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It doesn't take a cannon to shoot 1k plus, but the cannons ring the steel a lot louder.
Jason when I put a different scope on the Grendel we need to stretch its legs.
123's ? Screw my can on the end and watch the bullet fly all the way to the end.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 06:59 PM
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What 3 are you thinking? I can come up with more if all works on paper. And to the best of my knowledge all of them can be shot through a standard. 1:10 twist although one manufacturer recommends a faster one. ABLR, matrix, cutting edge
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 07:08 PM
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With the premise that staying supersonic will still be accurate/stabilized at that distance (given adequate rifle load etc.) the ABLR, Berger 150 vld, 135 gr SMK, 150 NBT will all do it and should stabilize in standard twist.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/18/15 07:21 PM
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Lapua, Norma and Nosler all make very good 6.5-284 Brass. Nosler and HSM both load some good factory loads.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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Lapua brass is high, but it's good stuff. You won't have much work at the bench with it compared to the cheaper stuff.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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Lapua brass is high, but it's good stuff. You won't have much work at the bench with it compared to the cheaper stuff. Same with Nosler brass. Case life is good in the AI, 6.5-284 and 6.5 Creedmoor with the very little case taper and steeper shoulder angle, you do not have to trim as often. Have some of the Lapua 6.5-284 that has been trimmed once after 4 loads and annealed at that time, now at 7 loads on that batch of brass. If you get 10 loads from a piece of brass cost of the Lapua is not that bad.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 12:04 AM
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stay away from wildcats
get something you can find components easy for
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 12:51 AM
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stay away from wildcats
get something you can find components easy for 30-06 was mentioned a couple of times. I'm assuming it had a large bullet selection available being .30 caliber.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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Nothing wrong with the good ole '06
Wildcats can be very picky when having to form cases, maybe turning necks, etc.
It can get to be a pain in the neck unless you like to sit at the reloading bench all day.
Hell, you could burn up a barrel just developing a load for some hot wildcats.
7mm Rem Mag with the right barrel twist will go a long way as a great longrange , long action cartridge, 280 Rem good too. Just my goofy opinions
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 02:45 PM
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I throw another in for the 284 Win. Believe I saw it mentioned on the first page. The 284 gets lots of love in F-Class and the long action is what you want for the 284.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 02:52 PM
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The .284 IS a good cartridge, but what would make it preferable over .280 to the point that having to find brass for it would be worth the extra trouble and expense?
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 05:06 PM
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I guess if I went 280AI then I could use the same bullets to reload for my 7mm mauser, but then, I'd have 2 7mms. Which I guess isn't a problem, since I won't be hunting with the savage anyways. Plus I have a 250savage that I can use if I want a smaller bullet for varmints.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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02/19/15 05:22 PM
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Rebarrel it to a 270 just to annoy some of the long range guys. Load it with bergers and have fun. Its a savage so you can change bolt heads and rebarrel yourself easily. 6.5-06, 280, or 30.06 all will work. 6mm-06 could be fun.Its just preference.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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[quote=bo323]Rebarrel it to a 270 just to annoy some of the long range guys. quote]
That would certainly do it.
Having loads of BC available in 6.5mm and 7mm and handicap yourself by going .270
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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[quote=bo323]Rebarrel it to a 270 just to annoy some of the long range guys. quote]
That would certainly do it.
Having loads of BC available in 6.5mm and 7mm and handicap yourself by going .270 Since it is already a 270 he can cut his teeth on loading and long range before he undergoes the expense of it. Plus loads of people shoot 308 long range and I think there are options that will allow the 270 to do a tad better than that.
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Re: Long action long range caliber
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Don't think you'll be satisfied with a 270 WIN for long range applications. Kind of the wrong tool for long range. If your set on the caliber 270 at least go with a weatherby loaded with 150VLD's.
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