texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TraeMartin, Beatixre, MooseSteed, Trappernewt, casyoo
71987 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,788
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,416
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,769
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics537,021
Posts9,719,492
Members86,987
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
When does a caliber become a magnum? #5602305 02/16/15 06:54 PM
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 31,055
HWY_MAN Offline OP
THF Celebrity
OP Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 31,055
Is it velocity, ft-lbs or something as simple as just adding a belt? Oop's some magnums don't have a belt.

Last edited by HWY_MAN; 02/16/15 06:55 PM.

Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602388 02/16/15 07:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219
D
dee Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219
I'd say anything that has more than 50gr powder capacity.


"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: dee] #5602407 02/16/15 07:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 329
B
bside Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
B
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 329
Originally Posted By: dee
I'd say anything that has more than 50gr powder capacity.


.30-06?

I'd call the differentiation more art than science. "Magnum" basically means "we took a chambering that exists and took it to 11" or "we're Holland and Holland and we like that term"

Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602431 02/16/15 07:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,101
C
Colt W. Knight Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
C
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,101
The only real definition I know is when Champagne comes in 1.5 liter bottles.

A 17 HMR doesn't have 50 grains of powder.

Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602475 02/16/15 08:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,083
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,083
Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/-

257 Weatherby, 264 Win Mag, 270 weatherby Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Weatherby Mag, 7 STW,
7mm Rem Ultra Mag, 300 H & H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 RUM, 303 Brit,
8mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, 340 Weatherby Mag, 338 RUM, 375 H & H, 375 Weatherby,
375 RUM, 416 Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag, and the 458 Lott.

Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .585 +/-

30/378 Weatherby, 338 Lapua, 338/378 Weatherby, 378 Weatherby mag, 416 Rigby,
416 Weatherby Mag, 460 Weatherby Mag, and the 470 Nitro Express.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602477 02/16/15 08:16 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
S
SingleShot85 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
any chambering with at least .532 bolt face..... is a good start. The .284 and has standard BF"... but its a baby magnum

Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602488 02/16/15 08:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
R
RiverRider Online Confused
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Confused
THF Trophy Hunter
R
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
Its meaningless.


[Linked Image]

"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty."

-Augustus McRae
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602559 02/16/15 08:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,234
G
gusick Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
G
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,234
There are no rules whatsoever to naming cartridges. Half the time, they don't even name it by the right bore diameter.

Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: dee] #5602572 02/16/15 08:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,481
R
redchevy Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
R
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,481
Originally Posted By: dee
I'd say anything that has more than 50gr powder capacity.


Guess my 270 win just became a magnum.


It's hell eatin em live
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: RiverRider] #5602587 02/16/15 09:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
N
Nogalus Prairie Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
N
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Its meaningless.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602611 02/16/15 09:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,273
B
blackcoal Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,273
Strictly in the name and nothing else. Example is .222 Magnum, short lived commercial round and was made extinct by the .223 Rem.


The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,
it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602620 02/16/15 09:11 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,259
D
dkershen Online Content
Rev Dave
Online Content
Rev Dave
D
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,259
It becomes a magnum when the marketing guy advertising the new product adds it to the name.


To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.

www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602892 02/16/15 11:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,273
B
blackcoal Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,273
Story goes when they came out with the .450 Marlin they originally were going to name it the .450 short magnum. However, Marketing decided it would stop buyers because they would associate it with African game calibers and super heavy recoil.


The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,
it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602910 02/16/15 11:40 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
kmon11 Online Shocked
junior
Online Shocked
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
Magnum is just a name, some of the most powerful cartridges do not have Magnum in the name while some weak ones by comparison have Magnum. Look at the quarter bore 256 Winchester Magnum and 257 WBY magnum, both are named MAGNUM but one most here would not consider enough for hill country deer.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5602987 02/17/15 12:17 AM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 840
1
10ring Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
1
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 840
.22 wmr. Not very big compared to most magnums. Should have just called it the .22 extra long rifle!

Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5603099 02/17/15 01:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,487
syncerus Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,487
When the marketing department decides that appending the terms "Jeroboam", "Marie Jeanne", "Tappit Hen" or "Tregnum" is silly.

Would you really shoot a .277 Weatherby Tappit Hen?


NRA Patriot Benefactor & DSC Lifer
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: syncerus] #5603532 02/17/15 03:32 AM
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,062
T
Toxarch Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
T
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,062
Originally Posted By: syncerus
When the marketing department decides that appending the terms "Jeroboam", "Marie Jeanne", "Tappit Hen" or "Tregnum" is silly.

Would you really shoot a .277 Weatherby Tappit Hen?

So it's a different marketing than used for Android OS names?

Alpha (1.0)
Beta (1.1)
Cupcake (1.5)
Donut (1.6)
Eclair (2.0–2.1)
Froyo (2.2–2.2.3)
Gingerbread (2.3–2.3.7)
Honeycomb (3.0–3.2.6)
Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0–4.0.4)
Jelly Bean (4.1–4.3.1)
KitKat (4.4–4.4.4, 4.4W.1–4.4W.2)
Lollipop (5.0–5.0.2)


It is far more important to be able to hit the target than it is to haggle over who makes a weapon or who pulls a trigger.

� Dwight D. Eisenhower
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5603668 02/17/15 05:02 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,175
T
texaspatriot.308 Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,175
I got a couple friends that brag about hunting with magnums or ultra mags...neither one of them can hit anything cause they are probably flinching when the shoot...but they can say they are hunting with magnums....ego trips I guess.


TexasPatriot.308
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: texaspatriot.308] #5603723 02/17/15 06:27 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
kmon11 Online Shocked
junior
Online Shocked
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
Originally Posted By: texaspatriot.308
I got a couple friends that brag about hunting with magnums or ultra mags...neither one of them can hit anything cause they are probably flinching when the shoot...but they can say they are hunting with magnums....ego trips I guess.


How tall are those friends?


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: HWY_MAN] #5603728 02/17/15 06:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,175
T
texaspatriot.308 Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,175
how tall? in their minds or in reality? they are grown fair sized men.


TexasPatriot.308
Re: When does a caliber become a magnum? [Re: Toxarch] #5607257 02/19/15 01:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,487
syncerus Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,487
Originally Posted By: Toxarch

So it's a different marketing than used for Android OS names?

Alpha (1.0)
Beta (1.1)
Cupcake (1.5)
Donut (1.6)
Eclair (2.0–2.1)
Froyo (2.2–2.2.3)
Gingerbread (2.3–2.3.7)
Honeycomb (3.0–3.2.6)
Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0–4.0.4)
Jelly Bean (4.1–4.3.1)
KitKat (4.4–4.4.4, 4.4W.1–4.4W.2)
Lollipop (5.0–5.0.2)


I, myself, am greatly looking forward to Android MooseNose Damien ( 6.0 - 6.6.6). I hear it's a devil of an operating system.

wink


NRA Patriot Benefactor & DSC Lifer
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3