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Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 03:59 PM
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7mag
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Is it possible to have both and have great expectations? I just got on a new place with a fellow THFer. I have NEVER claimed to be a hog hunter, but I have hunted them a handful of times. One of the places I chose has a natural spring and hog heaven bathing. My feeder will sit just a few yards from the bath house.
I want the best of both worlds, I guess. Deer and hogs. Am I mistaken in my thinking? Seems like there are several that just flatout hate hogs, while others are completely OK with them.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 04:02 PM
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Navasot
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Pen the feeder and your good... you can hand corn if you want pigs and if your near water they will be moving through constantly anyway. I deal with it every year but the deer are getting use to them around here... until a big boar shows up the doe will run off smaller pigs if they are hungry
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 04:03 PM
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stxranchman
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Put me in the hate hogs group. I use a feed pen to keep them PITA at someone else's feeder or land. You can not have consistent, good deer hunting when you feeder is smelling like a hog pen and over run with hogs.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 04:04 PM
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7mag
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I also look at em as a plus for the grill
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 04:07 PM
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stxranchman
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The coyotes, buzzards and cara cara around here would agree on the part. Not for me, I do not care to eat them much anymore.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 05:26 PM
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kyle1974
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I like seeing a few hogs to mix it up a little, but it seems hard to get that mix... hogs are feast or famine, at least in my part of the world.
I checked my cameras yesterday after not being to the ranch in over a month, and the pigs are really getting thick out there now that deer season is over. I guess they haven't been shot at on a regular basis so they're starting to move around more.
I have some huge mature boars coming in braod daylight to the feeders right now... should make some good off season fun
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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#5599495
02/14/15 07:43 PM
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Of course you can have both, along with bobcats, coyotes, and other livestock. While I sometimes do see hogs and deer mingling, it is usually either/or. Hogs will be at the feeder for a while and when they leave, the deer will be there. Raccoons will often be at the feeder regardless of whether the hogs or deer are there. Sure, the occasional bully boar shows up, but generally speaking, the animals just keep their distance from one another and remain fairly happy.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/14/15 08:10 PM
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you can have both, but I agree with stxranchman that to have consistent deer visits to the feeder you need to hog panel it. I have sets with and without a pen, and while I see deer at both, more consistent deer visits with the pen around the feeder. The hogs will show up there too, to eat what gets thrown outside the feeder, but they can't dig, root and stink up the place with the pen around the feeder.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 03:14 AM
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shea.mcphail
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I've had hogs and deer out by the feeder simultaneously.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 03:22 AM
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I hand throw a lot of corn on the ground. Ive had deer cows and pigs eating all at the same time. If a larger pig 175 or bigger comes in Deer will tend to move out. If the deer are not moving I don't mind the hogs but rather see deer anytime over hogs.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 03:42 AM
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Hogs are fairly nomadic, known to roam across numerous miles and ranches in search of easy pickings. Pen in your deer feeder, but keep it a bit away from the water source. We have always had one feeder U fenced just for hogs and they find it soon enough and stay pretty much away from the deer feeders. I love wild hog almost as much as venison.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 04:04 AM
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I like having hogs, turkey and deer on my place and they seem to live together without much problems. When the hogs get thick, I get together a bunch of guys and we all go out to different feeders/food plots to hunt. For the most part, my feeders are for hogs and the plots are for the deer and turkey. They all use both, but the deer use the plots mostly. We take about 10 to 20 hogs, 10 deer and 10 turkey a year off of 600 acres (part of a 4000 acre big area) each year without depleting the resource. I don't think I could/would have this much game on my place with cattle on it, that is why I don't run cattle. My place is for hunting.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 02:58 PM
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For years I've had my feeder open to the hogs. During the course of the year, I would get both deer and hogs eating the corn. Usually the deer would show up early, then later in the middle of the night, the hogs would show up and finish off what's on the ground. This would last for weeks, until the hogs showed up earlier and run off the deer. Then the deer would disappear for months at a time. Hogs make a ton of noise, they chase each other around, and you just never know when one of them is going to take off running. In my opinion, deer do not like this. After shooting more hogs then I can count, I've come to the conclusion that just killing them wont keep them away. I fenced off my feeder to keep the hogs out, and after a month or so, deer started showing up on a regular basis. I've gone from just one or two, to 9 out feeding every night. It's just not the corn, they are hanging out in the food plot now. My feeder and food plot are next to each other, but the food plot wasn't being used very much until now. My thinking is that the hogs at the corn where so disruptive that they kept the deer away from the food plot.
I do not believe you can have both in the same area and consistently have deer around.
Eddie
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 03:52 PM
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Started food plot behind house down by creek years ago for deer. The working up the ground atracted deer. Before the game cams, would chheck for tracks. Still enjoy the old timers way, use it at WMA. Pretty soon the hogs would find it, they travel the creeks & bottoms. Deer tracks would decrease, but still be found & still seen deer. Used ta use pvc pipe feeders for corn. Then the feeders dusk & dawn. it was set off ta side. The bigger hogs dominated it. . Dogs been keeping the hogs away from every thing lately. Hogs show up, & as others have mentioned, squeeling & scuffles bring the dogs around. Deer have beentypicaly out running dogs, circle back. Think the deer getting tired of it also. More pics of dogs than deer & hogs put tagether. Makes it a tougher hunt.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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#5600510
02/15/15 07:13 PM
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Our place has both and the deer will leave when bigger pigs come in but the pigs are hardly ever around in the daylight.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/15/15 10:25 PM
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Hate them, kill everyone you see with any means available. If you pen your feeder you should be good for a while.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/16/15 06:46 AM
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I have only seen once a deer walk into a group of hogs and he was the boss buck. This was S. Tex though where mature deer actually live another day lol. At my lease we fenced off half the feeders and got rid of the hogs and saw more deer. I like to see both though so mix it up. Normally a group of hogs will keep deer away until they move on.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/17/15 02:07 AM
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The deer on my place run for the hills if hogs come around. ALSO, hogs can completely destroy small (or large!) food plots. Kill every one you see, trap the rest. Once you've got them, pretty impossible to get rid of, but if you don't try, they cause mucho problemos.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/19/15 11:01 PM
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Man I hate them suckers. Like that one guy said how much ammo does it take to rid these pest from my hunting spot? I'm truely concurned about them. They're eating every acorn and tilling up everything. I killed a school bus load this last year and not the short one. I took a good friend hunting a few years ago. We set up on a narrowed cut off portion of a field. The animals have to walk around 300 yards of pond and across this potion of field. Makes a good funnel. Prime time came and a big boar was feeding on grass in the field. Here comes some bucks grouped up and what did the ahole boar do. He picked up his head at a 30 degree angle and cominst to chasing the bucks around the field. One of the bucks was very large and my blind friend shot at the small buck. The hole thing was like a circus gone wrong. I don't know who I was more frustrated with. The hog or the hunter. That hog ran a 160 in non typical deer that I had never seen and never would see ever again. I could have shot the buck, but had tagged out already and it wasn't my hunt, so no hogs don't belong. theyre not natural.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/21/15 03:22 AM
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I don't. I enjoy those targets of opportunity and the food they provide.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/21/15 12:06 PM
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Most would agree the worst thing about hogs is the damage they create on the landscape. They have rooted my food plots so badly that I had to work them with a box blade just to get the area smooth enough to disk. And they often create havoc on roads and other areas that takes a toll on your tractor. Like roaches, they serve no useful purpose.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/22/15 06:18 PM
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I like seeing a few hogs to mix it up a little, but it seems hard to get that mix... hogs are feast or famine, at least in my part of the world.
I checked my cameras yesterday after not being to the ranch in over a month, and the pigs are really getting thick out there now that deer season is over. I guess they haven't been shot at on a regular basis so they're starting to move around more.
I have some huge mature boars coming in braod daylight to the feeders right now... should make some good off season fun We have seen the exact same thing in Mason County, several years with almost the same pattern. We usually have pigs under control by deer season. Then they rebound pretty good January-May when hunting has decreased. For us the deer and pigs can coexist pretty good as long as we can decrease the pig population and run the ones that are left into being nocturnal again by deer season.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/22/15 06:23 PM
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Like roaches, they serve no useful purpose. My wife says this about me!
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/22/15 06:47 PM
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IME deer and hogs coexist pretty well together. I've never been on a place where it seemed the presence of hogs impacted the deer hunting any.
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Re: Co existing, deer and hogs
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02/22/15 06:56 PM
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feel like the needle in a haystack. Been complaining not seeing hogs
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