Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
cdes, bxrchk, Big Puma, Horbach Outdoors, Cert. Weigh Master
60502 Registered Users
Top Posters
dogcatcher 77598
stxranchman 52092
RWH24 44568
rifleman 43790
BOBO the Clown 41127
BMD 40539
Big Orn 37484
txshntr 33685
bill oxner 32705
sig226fan (Rguns.com) 30585
facebook
Forum Stats
60502 Members
45 Forums
476393 Topics
6249577 Posts

Max Online: 16728 @ 03/25/12 08:51 AM
Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... 10 11 >
Topic Options
#5599124 - 02/14/15 09:00 AM The price we pay
7mag Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20407
Loc: West Texas
So I got on another deer lease, and as always i'm stoked. I keep thinking in terms of budgets for hunting and what everyone can and/or is willingly to pay to hunt. My max out of pocket was $2,500.00 per yr. and that is top dollar for me anyway.

I love to hunt it will go with me to my grave and I love to talk hunting with like minded people. Have landowners, guides etc gotten greedy on pricing? or is it just a rich man's game now? Before you bash me with "aren't you the one who just listed a lease for 140 Gs?!" I am and with that stated everyone that knows me knows that isn't my property. That is the landowners wishes and I am just trying to help him out.

Would I pay that if I had that kind of money? I can't say because I have never been there. Another words I'm not sure what I would pay to get on a lease because I know my limitations now. I'm not bashing ANYONE who can afford those high dollar leases, more power to you.

I do think some leasing and outfitting has gone beyond a reasonable price and means and has kicked some of us in the face.
_________________________

"Una Stamus"

Top
#5599135 - 02/14/15 09:09 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2047
I think some of the problem with higher priced leases and hunts is that individuals aren't paying for them. They're paid for by companies, which typically have a little more purchasing power than your average person.

Top
#5599137 - 02/14/15 09:10 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: kyle1974]
7mag Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20407
Loc: West Texas
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I think some of the problem with higher priced leases and hunts is that individuals aren't paying for them. They're paid for by companies, which typically have a little more purchasing power than your average person.


spot on, I agree. Nice for them sucks for us
_________________________

"Una Stamus"

Top
#5599145 - 02/14/15 09:13 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
I think there will always be more hunters looking for a good place to hunt than good places to hunt that are available. To many large ranches are split into smaller places that are being bought. Those places are not being leased out anymore. The supply of places that are leasing is shrinking every year.
_________________________


Top
#5599200 - 02/14/15 09:45 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2047
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months

Top
#5599212 - 02/14/15 09:48 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: kyle1974]
7mag Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20407
Loc: West Texas
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months


You know I always use to think that. In the last several yrs with the economy bad, prices still remained steep. Deals I am good with. I would love to find something to fill the freezer with (exotic).
_________________________

"Una Stamus"

Top
#5599214 - 02/14/15 09:49 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: kyle1974]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months

Who was paying for all those package hunts before the O&G boom?
_________________________


Top
#5599218 - 02/14/15 09:51 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: stxranchman]
7mag Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20407
Loc: West Texas
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months

Who was paying for all those package hunts before the O&G boom?


exactly, I didn't see a significant price cut on package hunts or lease even when the boom was down.
_________________________

"Una Stamus"

Top
#5599259 - 02/14/15 10:13 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
tlk Offline
Pro Tracker

Registered: 07/25/13
Posts: 1987
in the 50's when I was a kid I remember being at my dads lease and all of the adults complaining about the cost for a year round lease - $250 per man. It is all relative
_________________________
You can't fix stupid

Top
#5599296 - 02/14/15 10:45 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: stxranchman]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2047
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months

Who was paying for all those package hunts before the O&G boom?


there's been an O&G boom since 1999. with the exception of the slowdown in 2008, it's been pretty dang busy. You don't think prices have come up dramatically for package/guided hunts since then?

The deer breeding game has certainly increased in the last 15 years as well.

The company I was working for bought 2 million dollars worth of hunts on average for the past 5 years. I don't think they're buying any for this year. That's just one company. Maybe I'm looking at it on too small a scale.


Edited by kyle1974 (02/14/15 10:50 AM)

Top
#5599313 - 02/14/15 10:58 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: kyle1974]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
I bet we see a price cut on package hunts this year. Oilfield companies were buying a lot of those hunts, and they're all cutting back on how much, if any, they're going to buy this year. Probably see some pretty good deals in the next few months

Who was paying for all those package hunts before the O&G boom?


there's been an O&G boom since 1999. with the exception of the slowdown in 2008, it's been pretty dang busy. You don't think prices have come up dramatically for package/guided hunts since then?

The deer breeding game has certainly increased in the last 15 years as well.

The company I was working for bought 2 million dollars worth of hunts on average for the past 5 years. I don't think they're buying any for this year. That's just one company. Maybe I'm looking at it on too small a scale.

Packages hunts were sold well before 1999. The quality of deer to hunt drove up prices also. What has not gone up in price since the 70's, 80's, 90's...? Hunting leases were high in the early 80's then the bust on oil and price have steadily risen every since. Those large ranches are now divided into smaller ranches and I (as well as you) can name many large ranches that were leased that are no longer in the lease pool. Less land to lease by hunters or outfitters. More smaller landowners now hunting their own land. 2cents
_________________________


Top
#5599335 - 02/14/15 11:17 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2047
yep, I agree with all that. but I still think there's a big chunk of the purchasing power that's going to be reduced this year. It might not be long term enough to make any real difference, as deer don't really "expire", they just get to roll out another year and get bigger.

Top
#5599380 - 02/14/15 11:45 AM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
wtr Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/25/12
Posts: 490
Loc: West COMMA Texas
You have a lease posted for $200,000 on this forum. confused2


Edited by wtr (02/14/15 11:47 AM)

Top
#5599503 - 02/14/15 01:48 PM Re: The price we pay [Re: wtr]
7mag Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20407
Loc: West Texas
Originally Posted By: wtr
You have a lease posted for $200,000 on this forum. confused2


and obviously you can't read very well confused2
_________________________

"Una Stamus"

Top
#5599508 - 02/14/15 01:57 PM Re: The price we pay [Re: 7mag]
Pitchfork Predator Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/25/13
Posts: 10873
Loc: Murphy, TX Dickens county
I think many are over priced usually when a middle man is involved. If you can lease without the broker/middle man you can still get a good value if you work to find it. Some landowners, that are new to the game, get bad advice and overprice their land for lease.

As a landowner, if you want all that money then it's gonna come from a corporate lease. Now you have high rollers coming to hunt that can't shoot straight and drink too much. That's why if I was the landowner I'd rather take less money and have good hunters/stewards that I know and approve of hunting my land.
_________________________
Marc C. Helfrich
Retirement Planner

www.insured-wealth.com
469-323-8920

Top
Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... 10 11 >



© 2004-2016 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide