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#5596944 - 02/12/15 08:32 PM ChargeMaster Down.
6.5x47Lapua Offline
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Registered: 12/13/14
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Loc: dfw
After waiting patiently for my 6 creed dies to show up, I was finally ready to start the load development process. That was until my 8 year old Chargemaster decided it won't hold a zero. The scale has a 5-6 grain swing in either direction. The circuit is isolated on a surge protector, no fans, no ac, and on it's own isolated shelf. And yet, still it swings to and fro. A prometheus would be really handy right about now.

Decided to change up my process. For years I haven't been happy with the Chargemaster. Going back to a thrower, only this time I ordered a Scott Parker tuned Ohaus and Omega 2 trickler. Slow yes, but should be more accurate than the Chargemaster. Keeping my fingers crossed that scale shows up soon. I'm itching to shoot.

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#5596973 - 02/12/15 08:52 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Registered: 09/27/06
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Loc: Texas
Electronic gadgets are cool, fun and make things so much faster and easier. The lowest extreme spread loads I have ever made were with a Lee powder thrower then "trickled" up (no trickler so used a 38-55 case) to final weight using a Herters Balance Beam scale. ES of 4 When shot from a 7-30 Waters TC 14 inch barrel.



Edited by kmon1 (02/12/15 08:54 PM)
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#5596995 - 02/12/15 09:03 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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I only ever used the uniflow then a hand trickler on every charge.
I don't make much ammo.

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#5597700 - 02/13/15 10:32 AM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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I've almost got to the point where I can scoop 38.0 grains of Varget with the little Lee scoops: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/943305/lee-improved-powder-measure-kit?cm_vc=ProductFinding without having to trickle but maybe a tenth or two. I've had lots of practice though. That being said I just got a Chargemaster.
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#5597834 - 02/13/15 12:02 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
Judd Offline


Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 10761
Loc: Sachse, TX
I've got a spare GemPro 250 that I'm not using if that will get you shooting you can borrow it until your new stuff comes in.

Just shoot me a PM.

Edit - I've been fighting the urge all week to call Brand. I've been saving to build another gun but I might forego that and just belly up and buy the Prometheus.


Edited by Judd (02/13/15 12:04 PM)
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#5598035 - 02/13/15 02:53 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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The chargemaster will throw a heavy charge every so often very rarely have I seen a light one, but it has happened. I dump the overs and run it again till it comes out as accuarate as my scale is capable(+/- .1 grain.)
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#5598070 - 02/13/15 03:16 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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There's something screwball about a dispenser if it stops dumping before the target weight shows on the scale. Weird things happen where there are microprocessors and software involved. My PACT digital scale occasionally locks up in an error condition and the fix is to force the processor to reload the software by doing certain things through the keypad. Maybe there's something similar that can be done on the Chargemaster when it stops short like that.
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#5598376 - 02/13/15 06:37 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: Judd]
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Originally Posted By: Judd
I've got a spare GemPro 250 that I'm not using if that will get you shooting you can borrow it until your new stuff comes in.

Just shoot me a PM.

Edit - I've been fighting the urge all week to call Brand. I've been saving to build another gun but I might forego that and just belly up and buy the Prometheus.


Just do it all ready, and then let me know when it comes in so I can check it out.

Walter

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#5598387 - 02/13/15 06:42 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: Judd]
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Originally Posted By: Judd
I've got a spare GemPro 250 that I'm not using if that will get you shooting you can borrow it until your new stuff comes in.

Just shoot me a PM.

Edit - I've been fighting the urge all week to call Brand. I've been saving to build another gun but I might forego that and just belly up and buy the Prometheus.


Thanks for the kind offer Judd. I'm practically a next door neighbor. Grew up and still live in Wylie.

I ordered up a spare gempro 250 this morning. I'll be fishing lake fork this Sunday to keep me occupied.

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#5598392 - 02/13/15 06:46 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
The chargemaster will throw a heavy charge every so often very rarely have I seen a light one, but it has happened. I dump the overs and run it again till it comes out as accuarate as my scale is capable(+/- .1 grain.)


I understand all the in's and out's of the Chargemaster. Close to 10,000 rounds loaded on mine.

My problem isn't with the dispenser. The scale will not hold a zero. Turn on the chargemaster, let sit for a couple hours to warm up, calibrate it, zero it.
Once I have a zero, the scale will read between -6 grains to +6 grains, and everything in between. It simple will not remain on zero. Try to rezero, same bit. Put a 105 berger hybrid in the pan, same swing.

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#5598416 - 02/13/15 07:01 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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I'd probably call RCBS about it, their customer service seems to have a pretty good reputation.
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#5598621 - 02/13/15 09:18 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
Judd Offline


Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 10761
Loc: Sachse, TX
Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
Originally Posted By: Judd
I've got a spare GemPro 250 that I'm not using if that will get you shooting you can borrow it until your new stuff comes in.

Just shoot me a PM.

Edit - I've been fighting the urge all week to call Brand. I've been saving to build another gun but I might forego that and just belly up and buy the Prometheus.


Thanks for the kind offer Judd. I'm practically a next door neighbor. Grew up and still live in Wylie.

I ordered up a spare gempro 250 this morning. I'll be fishing lake fork this Sunday to keep me occupied.


No problem...if you don't want to wait let me know...I bought a A&D in December so It's just sitting here as a back up. Walter, I'm getting closer wink
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#5598638 - 02/13/15 09:26 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
rrflyer Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 485
Loc: Denton---ish
I pour on the charge master and double check on a fx120i

http://www.amazon.com/FX-120i-Precision-Balance-Compact-warranty/dp/B00HIU8LJC


You'd be surprised how much the charge master lies to you sometimes.

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#5598677 - 02/13/15 09:43 PM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: rrflyer]
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Loc: dfw
Originally Posted By: rrflyer

You'd be surprised how much the charge master lies to you sometimes.


I'm not surprised at all. The scale has always been the weak link of the chargemaster. Garbage really.


This gempro 250 and Scott Parker tuned Ohaus should be infinitely better.

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#5599249 - 02/14/15 10:08 AM Re: ChargeMaster Down. [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 356
Loc: N. Texas
IIRC the RCBS unit is made by PACT. They are located in Grand Prairie. I would give them a call and see if they have any suggestions. If not, call RCBS.

Contact info. for PACT:

Customer Service:
1-800 PACT INC
1-800 722 8462

P.O. Box 535025
Grand Prairie, TX
75053
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