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#5595742 - 02/12/15 09:15 AM Honest lease broker
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Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 42
Loc: DFW
Guys and Gals,

I have read horror stories about dishonest brokers and want to avoid them.

I have a group of guys looking for a lease and want recommendations, if you have them for an honest/fair broker.

looking in and around throckmorton/palo pinto/wichita falls, that area. or south of 30

Any suggestions, let me know.

thanks

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#5595815 - 02/12/15 10:04 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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The best thing to do is avoid the brokers all together and work directly with land owners. Brokers increase the price to pocket money and to be very honest, it is hard to find a good one.

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#5595824 - 02/12/15 10:10 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: JRJ6]
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Originally Posted By: JRJ6
The best thing to do is avoid the brokers all together and work directly with land owners. Brokers increase the price to pocket money and to be very honest, it is hard to find a good one.


+1. I know several guys who are lease brokers on the side. Most of them are nice guys.

But I hear many more bad stories than good from the hunters they put on various leases. My thinking is:
1)most knowledgeable owners with good places don't need a middleman; and 2)most lease brokers are motivated to "upsell" any place to get the deals done.
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#5595898 - 02/12/15 10:49 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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Is this an oxymoron like "honest politician"?
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#5596030 - 02/12/15 12:24 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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Deal directly with landowner if at all possible.
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#5596031 - 02/12/15 12:24 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: passthru]
Whitecrow Offline
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Registered: 11/05/09
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Loc: Houston, TX
Originally Posted By: passthru
Is this an oxymoron like "honest politician"?
confused2


Pretty much....but even if you find an honest one, you are still paying a premium for the property.

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#5596399 - 02/12/15 03:50 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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Registered: 12/17/12
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Loc: West of DFW
Had good experience with JOHN RAY in that area.

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#5596443 - 02/12/15 04:13 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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I would recommend going to the feed stores near the areas you want to hunt. They know the landowners that have land available or that are complaining about current hunters they would like to get rid of.
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#5596588 - 02/12/15 05:48 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
RutHunter76 Offline
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Registered: 10/16/13
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I would check with the chamber of commerce for each county you are looking in. The land owners usually ask them to put it on their website. I found my last lease that way and was on it for 13 years. It's all about timing.

One thing for sure, do not lease from a Danny Coursville. He has a bad reputation. I learned from people on this site about this guy. I would agree with others, stay away from brokers.

Good luck!

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#5596895 - 02/12/15 08:18 PM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
aeb Offline
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Used third-party brokers for several years on the ranch when we first began leasing out the family ranches. They were a total PIA as were some of the folks they brought in. One thing I learned was to never, ever trust them. A haven for con artists.
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#5597474 - 02/13/15 08:22 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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Light Foot

Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 42
Loc: DFW
Wow! thanks for the replies. y'all kind of reaffirmed my own thoughts about them.

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#5597505 - 02/13/15 08:37 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
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Don't confuse lease broker with outfitter or guide. May find bad in any of the three but one is only out to make money off others land, one may own land and show you the place, one maybe employee and there to assist in taking game. Research is key on all three.
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#5597529 - 02/13/15 08:50 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: Hair 'o dog]
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Registered: 01/24/10
Posts: 6358
Loc: Rockwall
Originally Posted By: Hair 'o dog
Had good experience with JOHN RAY in that area.


wow, i talked to john about 20 years ago when i was looking for a place, is he still leasing? i didnt get any dishonest vibes from him.
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#5597548 - 02/13/15 08:58 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: MMTX]
dgilbert Offline
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Thats easy don't use a broker. I never have or never will.

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#5597575 - 02/13/15 09:15 AM Re: Honest lease broker [Re: JRJ6]
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Loc: Fort Worth
Originally Posted By: JRJ6
The best thing to do is avoid the brokers all together and work directly with land owners. Brokers increase the price...


x2. They do the leg work but then they add a premium to the price to pay for their services.

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