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#5588607 - 02/07/15 11:06 PM What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie
Nathan at Fork Offline
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I am buying my first muzzleloader to hunt deer and pigs with. I had been looking for a Lyman Trade rifle in 54 but looks like Im getting a Lyman Great Plains rifle in 54cal. I have never shot a muzzle loader before. I know Ill need to do some experimentation with different bullets and powder loads to find out what will work best with this rifle, but Id like to get the necessary accessories and any recommended upgrades bought and in hand. I don't know the barrel length or twist on the rifle Im getting yet.

Can someone give me a list of things that are needed and things that are good to have to get started in muzzle loading. Id rather pay a little more for a quality item than get something cheaper that is harder to use/less accurate/break easy. Also, if there are any upgrades that I can make to the rifle itself Id like to hear those as well. Also, how do I know what powder to get and projectiles to try? IF there a good website for an intro to BP? Id also like to end up casting my own bullets. So to do this Im guessing I have to experiment with store bought until I find what works best then try to find a mold for that particular bullet?


Edited by Nathan at Fork (02/07/15 11:21 PM)
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#5588774 - 02/08/15 07:55 AM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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Congrats on your GPR. Which barrel twist did you get? 1/66 will be a roundball barrel. 1/48 will shoot either conical or roundball. 1/32 is a sabot barrel. As for powder, I only shoot blackpowder in my rifles and pistols. I recommend going to the Muzzleloading Forum since you bought a traditional rifle and not an inline. These guys can get you up and running.



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#5588896 - 02/08/15 09:42 AM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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Go to Traditional Muzzleloading Forum. Be sure to get a loading/cleaning range rod. As far as powder I use Goex 2f in my .54 Great Plains Rifle. .530 round balls and .018 pillow ticking. You can order all the stuff you will need from places like Track of the Wolf. Hope this helps.

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#5589675 - 02/08/15 07:28 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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Don't forget a short bullet starter and (depending on the ignition type) a pick to keep the primer hole clear.

MUDMAN,
Have not used round balls much. Do you use a lube on the pillow ticking or go dry?
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#5589739 - 02/08/15 07:58 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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lube the patch
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#5589800 - 02/08/15 08:32 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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The Lyman GPR I am getting is a sidelock percussion cap. He doesn't know what the twist rate is so Ill have to figure that out once I get it. Anyone know how to determine this?
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#5590023 - 02/08/15 10:11 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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put a tight fitting patch on a rod and measure distance and turns as you push it in
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#5590101 - 02/08/15 11:16 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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here is a list I have so far. Please let me know if Im missing anything or if anything I have listed is not needed. Thanks.

projectiles (roundball or conical depending on barrel twist)
black powder or bp substitute
percussion caps
percussion cap capper/holder/dispenser
powder measure/dispenser
lubed ball patches
short rod for starting bullet
brass range rod for seating bullet and cleaning
nipple wrench
ball puller
patch puller
cleaning patches
bore cleaning brush
cleaning jag for cleaning patches
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#5590257 - 02/09/15 07:40 AM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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That list is looking good. When I hunt I carry my powder and bullets in pre-measured containers. You can buy "speed loaders" for this, but I use 35 mm film canisters. You should look into getting a shooting pouch or a belt bag to carry the necessary equipment in while you hunt. I try to carry as little as possible while in the field.
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#5590906 - 02/09/15 01:58 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-Black-Powder-...=item27df00f65b I bought these and am very pleased with them. They are air tight when the cap is on. b

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#5591608 - 02/09/15 08:42 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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How do I know whether to use .530" or .535" roundballs?

Anyone here have the Lyman GPR in 54 and have any reccomendations on powder? From what Im reading, it seems most my best options are pyrodex RS, FFG, FFFG or Triple 7.

What do yall use for patching roundballs? some prelubed patches? Pacth sheet and cut at the barrel?
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#5592062 - 02/10/15 07:58 AM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: hangfire]
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Originally Posted By: hangfire
http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-Black-Powder-...=item27df00f65b I bought these and am very pleased with them. They are air tight when the cap is on. b


I have these too. Work like a champ.
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#5593247 - 02/10/15 08:21 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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Looks like cci #11 percussion caps and pyrodex RS powder is what I need to start out with.

Does anyone know if its worth the 6x.75mm #11 nipples with 6x.75mm musket nipples? How much of a difference would it make?

Does everyone here shoot inlines or are there any side lock percussion mz shooters? What supplies do you use? Prelubed patches or spitwads cut at barrel? Anyone shoot 54 cal?


Edited by Nathan at Fork (02/10/15 08:44 PM)
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#5593362 - 02/10/15 09:29 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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hope this readable



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#5593462 - 02/10/15 10:33 PM Re: What upgrades and accesories for Lyman muzzleloader? Newbie [Re: Nathan at Fork]
Nathan at Fork Offline
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That's great, thanks for posting it! Think Im going to find a muzzle loading manual to buy. There is to much I don't know.
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