All of this LF-HF hunting is really a bunch of crap. The so called LF purest who see themselves as true hunters as opposed to HF hunters who they refer to as only killers really cracks me up. The LF so called "Hunter" and I use the term very loosely sits in a probably heated tall box blind. He has corn and protein feeders in front of him as well as numerous senderos cut so he can ambush any thing that ventures in their area of sight. So called hunting like that is not hunting it is baiting. You are competing with those around your area on who can best bribe the deer to come visit. Back years ago when I guided I had those that in their minds considered themselves real hunters. A few probably were but most if they got out of the stand would be lost. I am not especially fond of bow hunters because of some problems in the past. But a bow hunter that will actually stalk an animal, not sit in a tree trying to ambush one is a real hunter. And that could be either HF or LF.

It's like comparing apples to oranges. Put and take hunts discuss me. But.... Supply and demand will always decide the long term viability of all businesses. Even put and take hunts. Property rights cannot be controlled by government to suppress those hunts.

If there is a market for them, so be it. No comparison to the life of a chicken that never leaves it's cage stacked ten high and crapped on from above until it's fattened up enough.....

I am glad there are HF operations that aren't put and take, and provide year round hunting opportunities for beautiful animals, many which are delicious to eat.

I have hunted and will hunt these ranches again and look forward to the next one. Especially when I can't hunt our native game and my trigger finger is getting itchy.

Are you talking about broilers or laying hens? Laying hens are in cages and broilers free roam in an enclosure. The laying hens do not get fattened up at all. Majority of those get made into dog food and I don't know of any that are made into something for human consumption because you would be good to even get enough off of them for one chicken nugget size of meat. They are in cages, and they can be stacked high, but certainly not fattened up. That's just not the way it works for laying hens or the way they are bred for that purpose.

Broilers are what are fattened up and are pretty lazy to move around. Those go out for human consumption and can weigh anywhere from 3.7-4.5 lbs in about 30 days. Some of the growers still raise 6-7 lb birds but there is not many of those left in the industry.


I grew up raising poultry and still do. My grandparents had laying hens and we have broilers. Going on about 39 years now.

Maybe he meant apples and aardvarks.

Still haven't heard anyone address the fact that if it ain't native white tail it's put and take. I guess some folks disgust themselves.