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#5582807 - 02/04/15 06:36 PM Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence"
jeffbird Offline


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114th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 224

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 8, 2015
Ms. Kelly of Illinois introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce

A BILL

To require the Surgeon General of the Public Health Service to submit to Congress an annual report on the effects of gun violence on public health.

1.Report on effects of gun violence on public health
Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, and annually thereafter, the Surgeon General of the Public Health Service shall submit to Congress a report on the effects on public health of gun violence in the United States during the relevant period, and the status of actions taken to address such effects.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr224/text

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#5582815 - 02/04/15 06:40 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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I've yet to meet a violent gun. I have met plenty violent humans, maybe the surgeon general should spend some time on this? Maybe more studies and money spent on mental health would help violent people from using guns. Just my 2cents

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#5582856 - 02/04/15 07:06 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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Agree ^^^

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#5582895 - 02/04/15 07:19 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: esnow74]
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Originally Posted By: esnow74
I've yet to meet a violent gun. I have met plenty violent humans, maybe the surgeon general should spend some time on this? Maybe more studies and money spent on mental health would help violent people from using guns. Just my 2cents


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#5583372 - 02/04/15 10:57 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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So whats the big deal? There are a lot of accidental shootings, murders, and suicides but the NRA has congress wrapped up so tight that the govt can't even study the topic. What are they afraid of, that guns could be made safer for the rightful owners? Look how far auto safety has come, a lot could be done with weapons too.
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#5583513 - 02/05/15 06:10 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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The SG should also file a annual report showing how many lives are saved each year because of gun ownership. My bet is that Ms Kelly would want a home owner shooting a burglar to be considered gun violence and not a reason to own a weapon for protection.
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#5583519 - 02/05/15 06:23 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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there just just being proactive in preparation from the guns becoming self aware.
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#5583782 - 02/05/15 09:14 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: foodieguy]
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Originally Posted By: foodieguy
So whats the big deal? There are a lot of accidental shootings, murders, and suicides but the NRA has congress wrapped up so tight that the govt can't even study the topic. What are they afraid of, that guns could be made safer for the rightful owners? Look how far auto safety has come, a lot could be done with weapons too.



The big deal is most of us see where this is headed. A cursory review of the SG's past positions, as well as the positions of an organization started by him, will give the underlying driving force behind this. He said in his confirmation hearing that he would not use his appointment to further his anti-gun agenda. Please forgive me if I don't believe him.

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#5583993 - 02/05/15 10:58 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: HillbillyDeluxe]
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Originally Posted By: HillbillyDeluxe
Originally Posted By: foodieguy
So whats the big deal? There are a lot of accidental shootings, murders, and suicides but the NRA has congress wrapped up so tight that the govt can't even study the topic. What are they afraid of, that guns could be made safer for the rightful owners? Look how far auto safety has come, a lot could be done with weapons too.



The big deal is most of us see where this is headed. A cursory review of the SG's past positions, as well as the positions of an organization started by him, will give the underlying driving force behind this. He said in his confirmation hearing that he would not use his appointment to further his anti-gun agenda. Please forgive me if I don't believe him.


Correct.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials...cate.htm?p=full

Second Amendment: The administration's choice to be the nation's doctor in chief views gun ownership as a public health issue and not a constitutional right, and wants doctors to query patients about guns in their homes.

Cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's champion, Debo Adegbile, President Obama's defeated pick to be assistant attorney general for the civil rights division at the Department of Justice, is not the only radical on President Obama's wish list.

That list includes gun-grabbing advocate Dr. Vivek Hallegere Murthy, Obama's nominee to be U.S. Surgeon General.

Murthy is the 36-year-old president and co-founder of the anti-gun group Doctors for America, which advocates ObamaCare and gun control laws.

His group, which has been dubbed "Docs vs. Glocks," has pushed Congress to ban "assault" weapons and "high-capacity" magazines.

He also wants to spend more tax dollars on more research to prove that fewer guns mean a lower crime rate, despite the fact that a number of reputable studies prove the opposite.

At a recent hearing before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, Sen. Lamar Alexander inquired about Murthy's social media comments on firearms, such as this tweet before the 2012 presidential election: "Tired of politicians playing politics w/ guns, putting lives at risk b/c they're scared of NRA. Guns are a health care issue."

Murthy's Twitter timeline is chock-full of his anti-firearms screeds.

"NRA press conference disappointing but predictable — blame everything in the world except guns for the Newtown tragedy. #wakeup," he tweeted in December 2012.

Doctors for America has also promoted the invasion of privacy by doctors by allowing them to ask patients if they have guns at home, including asking children if their parents own guns, and pushing back against Florida Gov. Rick Snyder's decision to sign into law a bill prohibiting doctors there from asking the question.

He would have doctors counsel their patients against exercising their Second Amendment rights. One wonders how private that information might remain if entered into the medical records the government would be privy to under ObamaCare.

Murthy ignores the fact that mass shootings such as at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., occur in so-called gun-free zones where the only armed individual is the predator.

The call for universal background checks, including at all gun shows, ignores that the guns Adam Lanza used at Sandy Hook were legally purchased and registered by his mother.

Just such a gun-free zone policy is why the Aurora, Colo., shooter carefully chose the theater he did. And unlike the mall in Clackamass, Ore., where a concealed-carry holder prevented a massacre, there was no one in Aurora to shoot back.

At Sandy Hook, 27-year-old teacher Victoria Soto hid students in a bathroom or closet and died trying to protect them from shooter Lanza. If she, the principal or any of the other adults at the school had access to a firearm, things might have turned out differently.

A recent Department of Justice study found only 0.7% of guns were purchased at gun shows and only 20% of guns used in crimes were purchased anywhere. Chicago street gangs, which are responsible for most of that city's homicides, are unlikely to line up for gun permits.

The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, which did nothing to prevent Columbine, was largely based on a weapon's cosmetic appearance, not on its capability for carnage.

Murthy would be the first to confirm the efficacy of vaccinations to prevent disease.

Millions of law-abiding Americans believe that a gun in their hand is better than a cop on the phone and that their constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms is inoculation against being another unarmed victim of an armed predator.

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#5584047 - 02/05/15 11:23 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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Jeffbird is spot on but in addition to the obvious 2d Amendment issues. I really don't need Washington throwing away more of my tax dollars on BS studies that will prove nothing useful.

Foodieguy so if for no other reason wasting our hard earned tax dollars on studying the behavior of an inanimate object it plenty of reason to not do this.
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#5584165 - 02/05/15 12:10 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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Just found this:

MEMORANDA OF PRESIDENT
PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM
<January 16, 2013, 78 F.R. 4295>
ENGAGING IN PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCH ON THE CAUSES AND PREVENTION OF GUN VIOLENCE
Memorandum for the Secretary of Health and Human Services
In addition to being a law enforcement challenge, gun violence is also a serious public health issue that affects thousands of individuals, families, and communities across the Nation. Each year in the United States there are approximately 30,000 firearm-related deaths, and approximately 11,000 of those deaths result from homicides. Addressing this critical issue requires a comprehensive, multifaceted approach.
Recent research suggests that, in developing such an approach, a broader public health perspective is imperative. Significant strides can be made by assessing the causes of gun violence and the successful efforts in place for preventing the misuse of firearms. Taking these steps will improve our understanding of the gun violence epidemic and will aid in the continued development of gun violence prevention strategies.
Therefore, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:
Section 1. Research. The Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary), through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other scientific agencies within the Department of Health and Human Services, shall conduct or sponsor research into the causes of gun violence and the ways to prevent it. The Secretary shall begin by identifying the most pressing research questions with the greatest potential public health impact, and by assessing existing public health interventions being implemented across the Nation to prevent gun violence.
Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 3. Publication. You are hereby authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.
BARACK OBAMA

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#5585218 - 02/05/15 07:29 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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WTF.
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#5585340 - 02/05/15 08:06 PM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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And so what's next.....is your doctor going to ask you about your driving habits, how many life jackets you have on your boat? Am I going to have to go to my gunsmith to discuss my colon?

This is nothing but the precursor to a gun grab and everyone knows it. That's why it's falling flat.

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#5593572 - 02/11/15 05:51 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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well this rep mrs Kelly is from Illinois , the most jacked up state ! with the most jacked up political reputation in the US . and they think they can fix the rest of the states ? the only things good that ever came out of Illinois is my wife and whitetail deer !!
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#5593854 - 02/11/15 09:30 AM Re: Bill to Have Surgeon General Report on "Gun Violence" [Re: jeffbird]
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The other day my daughter's friend lost her younger brother to suicide. He took her boyfriends gun, took his truck, drove down the road and shot himself. While we should never allow our right to have, carry and use our guns taken or limited we still have a responsibility to do what is within our power to help minimize and mitigate the tragedies that do occur. Those lives matter. Those families matter. While we need to stand strong against our enemies we need to be compassionate to the victims. The more we sideline, ignore and refuse to acknowledge those who suffer from gun violence the more enemies we create to our cause.

So instead of only complaining about the ways they attack us, what can we do to mitigate the circumstances that give them the leverage and ammo to do so?
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