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#5582740 - 02/04/15 06:01 PM food plots on public land... Baiting?
jtprocaddie Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
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Is planting a food plot on public land considered baiting? I am trying to find information on it but cannot find that specific answer.

Thanks guys!
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#5582758 - 02/04/15 06:14 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Woodsman

Registered: 12/25/12
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Loc: Frisco, Texas
Call the GW in that county. He is going to be the one you have to answer to.

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#5582759 - 02/04/15 06:15 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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I'd say depending on what you hunt over it. Call the county GW, they will know.
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#5582775 - 02/04/15 06:20 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
jtprocaddie Offline
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Sounds good. I was planting on planting oats, clovers and turnips.. the sell that mixture in 50 lbs bags. Will be a lot of work to hike it back to the areas where there is no traffic, and a full day prepping and a full day planting close to a wet week. lol But its worth a shot I think... If its legal
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#5582794 - 02/04/15 06:29 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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If you contact the GW, tell us what they say. Interesting question

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#5582809 - 02/04/15 06:36 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Sounds like a MBS seed mix. If it's a go, might want to go in in Aug. and do what you can to kill weeds, it will be hot enough to help you out and much easier when you return to plant.
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#5582822 - 02/04/15 06:45 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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That's where I think the problem comes in, using pesticides on public lands without a license and permit to do so. You may could just throw some seed out and hope for the best but disturbing public lands is probably where the they draw the line, hence the cutting of tree branches is usually against the rules.

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#5582881 - 02/04/15 07:14 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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I wasn't suggesting using any chemicals, I never do except when I had hay fields. You can get allot done with a rake, hoe and muscle, maybe a few ice cold beverages as well.

I don't know jack about the rules on Public land, but I'm sure you can contact someone that manages it?
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#5582953 - 02/04/15 07:42 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Chances are it will get wiped out by the deer pretty quick.

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#5583065 - 02/04/15 08:23 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Chances are it will get wiped out by the deer pretty quick.


More likely than not, if it is a small plot and high deer density.
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#5583070 - 02/04/15 08:24 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Based on past conversations with the staff at the Davey Crocket National Forest, it would be considered as baiting. I remember specifically a staff member telling me about individuals who got fined for clearing an area and planting a food plot with box stands next to it.

The are usually very strict about that kind of thing. I also had one of their officers tell me that he cited a guy who had cleared shooting lanes in the forest.

Better check with the staff at the office that oversees the public land first.
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#5583139 - 02/04/15 08:48 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Thanks for the info guys. I know you are not allowed to CUT down brush, trees or anything like that.. But the area I am thinking is already cleared.. just full of leaves ect on the ground, so would have to rake and then throw down the seed close to rainy days to get some water on them. It is 1.5 mile walk back to where NO ONE goes. I put a 20.00 bill on an older chair right n the open when I was scouting this area.. I left it there for a two weeks DURING deer season to see if it would be gone, and no one took the 20.00 bill or the chair lol. So its VERY lightly traveled.

Two dry creek beds connect right there where I am taking this picture from.

Killed my 1 deer there this year. But was tough on public land to locate more of course.

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#5583236 - 02/04/15 09:35 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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1.5 mile walk. I''d give anything to have your energy again, I could get there but getting a kill out......


Edited by KS 196 6/8 (02/04/15 10:07 PM)

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#5583243 - 02/04/15 09:39 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Someone recently told me there are food plots for turkey in the SHNF apparently planted by some turkey organization, I presume with forest service approval.
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#5583263 - 02/04/15 09:48 PM Re: food plots on public land... Baiting? [Re: jtprocaddie]
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Understand now. Your intention is to operate in that gray area where you're really not breaking any laws as such, but just enhancing an area in a more natural way and not throwing up a feeder.

If the area is very remote, I would say go for it, so long as you realize that you can never feel as if you are the only one who can hunt it. After all, it is public land.
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