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#5575529 - 01/31/15 06:46 PM deer lease possibble trespasser need advice
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Registered: 08/23/10
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so earlier last yr i was offered a lease in young county. i paid and got on it. has 2 other hunters. i lease from a lease manager? he had the lease and knows the land owner. now he sub leases? it to me.

well a few months ago, middle of deer season, i get a text that the land owners grand kids are heading out to the property to check it out and drive around. look the place over i guess. make sure we are taking care of it. long story short they went to the lease to hunt. sat in my blind and hunted my feeder. shot a pig. (we havent killed ANYTHING on the property yet, still havent as of today)., left beer bottles in my blind. so i text the lease manager and seems about as mad as i am. assures me that thats not what was supposed to happen, and the land owner would not approve.

so i let it go. havent mentioned it or asked anything about it!!

this weekend i decided to check cameras, and fill feeder. i noticed tire tracks down the road to get to feeder. i checked cameras and again see there was traffic.

i assume they came to hunt again becuz the first pic i have of them is at 230 in the am driving around my feeder. what else are you doing at 230 in the am down by a feeder!! also same day much later that after noon there they are again driving around my feeder! all caught on cam.


what can i do, any legal way to keep this from happening. prob should just find a new lease?

do i have any right?






Edited by samsamthemex (01/31/15 06:47 PM)
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#5575570 - 01/31/15 07:08 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Talk it over with the lease manager and get answers. That is what a lease manager is for.
Also if you renew the lease it would help to have a clear lease agreement that would address those issues.
If you didn't sign a lease agreement, then you have little ground to stand on!

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#5575571 - 01/31/15 07:08 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Find a lease where you deal directly with the landowner.
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#5575578 - 01/31/15 07:12 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Find a lease where you deal directly with the landowner.


Get off of it.

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#5575592 - 01/31/15 07:21 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: dgilbert]
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Originally Posted By: dgilbert
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Find a lease where you deal directly with the landowner.


Get off of it.


Whoa!....How's the deer hunting, and how much do you pay?

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#5575629 - 01/31/15 07:40 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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i signed a lease agreement, but only states i have hunting and fishing permission. nothing about other hunters or the other tow on lease.


jimbo- thats the thing. i am on 520 acres in young county. i have a 12x12 cabin with elec, and a community kitchen cabin. all existing. and i pay $1000 for the yr. kids and famliy welcome off my tags. totaly fine with me!!

as with most it was a slow yr for deer hunting this last season. but everyone i have talked to in the surrounding properties have all stated that i shouldnt have a prob filling freezer. but prob not gunna get any real trophys. we are not looking for trophy deer anyway. but as with most the deer were nocturnal. only seen 2 deer in the day time and passed on both as it was the first week of the season!! but lots of deer at night on the cams.
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#5575726 - 01/31/15 08:29 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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2 bucks an acre. That's strange
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#5575729 - 01/31/15 08:30 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Good price, but you may have to take the good with the bad.....the bad in this case family and friends having the run of your lease and your gear. I have had that happen too and didn't put up with it for a second. But that was me and we were paying a lot more than that.

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#5575766 - 01/31/15 08:44 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: dgilbert]
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Originally Posted By: dgilbert
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Find a lease where you deal directly with the landowner.


Get off of it.


This ^^^^

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#5575983 - 01/31/15 11:40 PM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Just curious, what city does your lease Manager live in? There's a well-known Young county lease Mgr., curious if it's him.

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#5576016 - 02/01/15 01:39 AM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Registered: 12/12/11
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For that price and those amenities, who cares, unless you are rich...then get the hell out of there.
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#5576024 - 02/01/15 03:31 AM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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As was stated above, for the price you might just have to put up with it.

If they're only out there after the regular season killing hogs, then I wouldn't sweat it. For that price.
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#5576064 - 02/01/15 06:50 AM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: Jimbo]
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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Originally Posted By: dgilbert
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Find a lease where you deal directly with the landowner.


Get off of it.


Whoa!....How's the deer hunting, and how much do you pay?


You saw 2 deer, "nuff said" in my book.

I would at the least, have a frank discussion with the lease manager and/or LO . Having you think one thing, then find out another, personally wouldn't matter to me if it was $250 year. So far you paid 1000 bucks to go "camping".

I have been on leases where the same thing happened, 1st one I got my money back and was lucky, 2nd LO had no idea his son was bring out half the senior class (college) and that ended quick with that LO, he was a stand up rancher.
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#5576130 - 02/01/15 08:04 AM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
Ketchn Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
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seen this kinda thing a lot over the years
I suppose if you don't mind lots of unexpected traffic
and at that price to boot ....
maybe stay on and try to see if it gets better ?

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#5576172 - 02/01/15 08:45 AM Re: deer lease possibble trespasser need advice [Re: samsamthemex]
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Registered: 09/22/11
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Let me know when you get off of it.. I have a lease that's smaller and with 10 people.. Everyone hunts everyone else's blinds and has never been a problem. It's all about communication and maybe a lock on your blind door. How many times did you hunt to see those deer
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