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Lease pricing
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01/26/15 02:55 AM
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rattler03
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Lately, I've noticed quite a bit of negative posts about leasing, and most of the posters seem to disagree with the price or the rules regarding guests. I can completely understand being frustrated about not being able to find a lease that allows you to bring your kids or wife. But, I wanted to explore lease pricing to hopefully help us better understand what a fair price really is. I thought about doing a poll, but with all the factors regarding amenities I thought it would be too simple to just do a poll based on price alone.
So, what do you pay for your lease? Please list some of the factors that influence your price like location, acreage, amenities, guest policy, year-round access and proximity to an urban area. Thanks guys!
Last edited by rattler03; 01/26/15 02:55 AM.
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5564387
01/26/15 03:01 AM
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rattler03
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I'll start off. I pay $1575, which comes out to about $10/acre. My lease is in Stephens County, and is about 2 hours from the center of the DFW metroplex. We have 930 acres and 6 total hunters. We have electricity at camp (we all have our own campers) but have to haul in water from the nearest town. Guests are allowed but anything they harvest counts off my quota, which is usually one trophy, one spike and one doe. There are cattle on the lease.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/26/15 03:12 AM
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Chuck McDonald
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Paying 1575 I bet you guys have a waiting list a mile long. Personally price is usually that last factor, if the lease is within 4 hours of me and they allow kids.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/26/15 03:24 AM
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wtr
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My dad and I lease 250 acres outside of de leon. We have a camper out there with electricity and water. We each pay $1500. We've thought about adding another gun to make it a thousand bucks each but we kinda like havin the place to ourselves.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/26/15 03:40 AM
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stxranchman
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I pay $3195 per gun on Mule Deer lease in the Trans Pecos region of West Texas or .37/acre. 8 guns total on 69,000 acres and we do a 7 yr lease, then renew. Mule Deer only season lease and we are allowed a buck of our choice. No housing provided and it is 25 miles to town where we stay in a hotel. It is 430 miles from my house to ranch HQ. No guests are allowed.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5564568
01/26/15 04:24 AM
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Fltmedic
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Lease we just lost was $6000/yr for 585 acres with cabin electricity / water. It was an annual lease with some exotics in Bandera county. It was a great place, sadly it was sold. We were allowed two bucks, unlimited varmints, and state limits on all other game. We had 4 guns so it was $1500/gun.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/26/15 04:36 AM
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Dadsaid
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Val Verda county. 360 miles from my house. $2500 a gun ( includes corn & protein). 3,000 acres. 10 members. $5 per acre then the corn & protein is added which equals the $2500. Elec & water. We built a cabin and provided trailer hook ups. Guest allowed, they shoot off your tags.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/31/15 02:45 AM
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Hunter3007
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I have 2600 acres high fence at 10$ an acre no water or electric in webb co is that a fair price only 6 guns
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/31/15 03:07 AM
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txshntr
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7k acres, water, electricity, walk in cooler, slab and skinning "A" frame, semi-community shed with satellite TV, year around access, all game animals except quail. Guest are allowed but have to hunt with paying member. They can shoot does, spikes and culls that do not count toward the paying members quota but a trophy counts as the paying members of a guest takes it. Any exotic can be taken except blackbucks. Near San Angelo. $6/acre
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Re: Lease pricing
[Re: rattler03]
#5574258
01/31/15 03:44 AM
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Pittstate
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I get $5500 a year for 320 acres in Oklahoma. It comes with a nice cabin that has water/electricity/septic. Hunt year round. No guests. Family hunts with lease member. State limits on all game animals and no cattle on property. I also share cost to plant about 3 to 4 acres of food plots. Three nice box blinds provided as well. This place is 1.25 hours from Denton, TX.
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Re: Lease pricing
[Re: rattler03]
#5574363
01/31/15 05:13 AM
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Halfadozen
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Rolling plains and northern hill country should average 10-12 unless you have River frontage. Water and electric add 2. Cows subtract 2-3,
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/31/15 08:11 AM
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Txduckman
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We pay $10 an acre for 1000 acres (actually is 1,100 per google ) less than 2 hours from city with 6 guys. Water and electricity included with year round access. No rules but the states so guests are no issue which I take if no one else will be there to shoot a doe/hog if they like. We normally take 3 bucks and a few does/spikes a year. Only issue is cows but they have only messed up one hunt in 5 years. They have plenty of land to roam. Hopefully we'll get some rain to fill up our duck tank. There are 7 water sources though. Windmills were just converted to solar pumps and 4 tanks. We provide our own lodging which is pretty nice being over a mile from the gate. Buddy up the road pays $4k each but has lodging provided for and over 6000 acres and all stands/feed provided for. They just draw for blinds with whoever is hunting that day.
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Re: Lease pricing
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01/31/15 03:23 PM
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Russ79
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For me it's all about hunting opportunity. I used to hunt mule deer in west Texas on a place owned by a friend but the short season and 10 hour drive limits opportunity. Since I live in east Texas I decided to take advantage of the cheaper leasing opportunity that timber company land provides. So now, for around half of what most folks have posted that they pay, I have two leases from Campbell. One is less than a mile from my house and one is seven miles. So now I hunt every weekend and before the time changes, I can bow hunt every afternoon when I get off work. I sleep in my own bed every night and on the weekends I can take care of honey-do's in between hunts. It's a win/win for me.
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5574661
01/31/15 03:37 PM
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Navasot
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Pay 1k a gun for 10 people on 500acres in the post oak savanna
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5574664
01/31/15 03:39 PM
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Navasot
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Pay 1k a gun for 10 people on 500acres in the post oak savanna That duck, hog, deer, dove, fish, gator etc... awesome place and ill keep paying it every year.
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Re: Lease pricing
[Re: rattler03]
#5574798
01/31/15 05:02 PM
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ttechcolleyville
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We pay $20 an acres for 900 acres in Erath County and 10 hunters ($2K per gun). Less than 90 miles from home, nice camp area with hook ups. Year around access, family members can hunt off your tag. And guests can hunt turkey and hogs, but not deer. Landowner is great and people spend a lot of time out there all year.
Hunting quality was great when we started but has gone down significantly - combination of hunter density and our lack of management).
Value is relative. I am looking for another lease out of frustration that we are not managing the deer or doing anything to at least maintain hunting quality. While the majority of other hunters are perfectly content because of the year round accessibility of the property and its proximity to where they live.
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5574827
01/31/15 05:23 PM
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don k
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From what I have seen around here is that if you have a lease you like you better try your best to keep it. I know of many places in this area that used to lease out for hunting me included. I cannot name one of those that still does. I guess there are several factors that has caused the decline. Some the original owners have passed away and the places have either sold or the offspring have gained control and do not want to lease. Some have started hunting by the animal and not leasing like me. Those that have sold the new owners don't want to lease either because they hunt or just don't want others on their property. I don't know all the reasons I just know in this area the days of leasing a property for hunting especially year around is a thing of the past.
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Re: Lease pricing
[Re: rattler03]
#5574856
01/31/15 05:44 PM
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Pittstate
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I know what you are saying Don. Fine line between getting good managers of land on your place and just getting good people. I don't have limits on my place and told the group that the day I don't get pics of 150" plus deer on my game camera's is the day they won't be renewed.
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5575245
01/31/15 10:07 PM
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Wilhunt
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216 acres in the hill country, 4 hunters and we pay electricity and use well water. We have run electrical and water lines to our travel trailer area. Fish, deer, hogs, dove, turkey and year round access. Not many deer due to neighbors, great owners, family welcome and they shoot off your tag. Been there 13 years pay $1,200. each.
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Re: Lease pricing
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#5575309
01/31/15 10:38 PM
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thewrap
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Last year I paid $2500 a gun to hunt in San Angelo. Had a house with water and electric and also had electric hook ups for RV's.
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Re: Lease pricing
[Re: don k]
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02/01/15 01:52 AM
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Locotrician
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From what I have seen around here is that if you have a lease you like you better try your best to keep it. I know of many places in this area that used to lease out for hunting me included. I cannot name one of those that still does. I guess there are several factors that has caused the decline. Some the original owners have passed away and the places have either sold or the offspring have gained control and do not want to lease. Some have started hunting by the animal and not leasing like me. Those that have sold the new owners don't want to lease either because they hunt or just don't want others on their property. I don't know all the reasons I just know in this area the days of leasing a property for hunting especially year around is a thing of the past. I think your correct . I have lived in Bandera for almost three years and have not been able to find a lease within an hour of here. From what I can tell looks like the hunting in this area is pretty much commercialized. Pretty much a money grab and not real hunting scenario where a father takes his son out and teaches him how to hunt. It's all about pay for a specific animal or $$$$$ per gun with a contract it would take a legal team to decifer signed in your first borns blood. Very sad true hunting tradition will be lost to this
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Re: Lease pricing
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02/01/15 01:24 PM
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don k
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This whole area around here. Bandera, Medina, Tarpley, Pipe Creek, Lake Hills, Boerne, and the Southern part of Kerr County is getting over populated with people. Very few of the larger ranches that have not been divided up. Even way out by Camp Wood and Rocksprings you better do your homework before you lease.
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