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new rifle set up #5572373 01/30/15 04:22 AM
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I'm looking to set up a rifle for long range shooting I know lots of people have different definitions of long range but to be clear I want a rifle that can shoot 200-400 yards and be accurate of course my shooting will also be a factor, I was looking at the howa kryptek 1500 its a nice rifle and I've heard good things about howas any caliber recommendation or other rifles?

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Budget with optics?

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Howa makes a good rifle, but you can find others like Savage and Remington that will be cheaper and have better aftermarket support for upgrades later on. I'm considering picking up one of these for my next rifle...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/SAVAGE-FCP-SR-RIFLE/1954769.uts

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up to 400 yards, any rifle 25 caliber and larger is good. I have never owned a howa but have heard good things about them. like Precision said, savage and remington are good choices as well.

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I'm just starting to dip my toe into stretching my shots out farther. So, I'm by no means an expert, but any quality rifle with decent optics should be able to shoot accurately at those ranges as far as hunting goes. If you really want to shoot 1" groups at 400, you will likely need a custom or semi custom build, and there are lots of guys here who can steer you in the right direction if that's your goal.

If hunting is the goal, I'd buy a savage model 11 is something like .308 and put a vortex crossfire II 4-16x50 on it. That would certainly get the job done.


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Only problem with a Howa/Weatherby Vanguard, that while they are good fairly inexpensive shooters as they come from the factory, the barrels are threaded in metrics, and from what I hear, are an absolute bear to get off the receiver....and hence as mentioned, not much in the way of after market goodies support available, like a Remington 700 or Savage would have.

IMO I'd be looking at a Tikka T3 Blue/Syn stock in that $500 price point, and then have the ability to move thru the after market upgrades one step at a time...but they are noted for Out of the Box accuracy & guaranteed to shoot 1" MOA at 100 yards. Both of the T3 shooters I've owned would/will do that in bone stock configuration, and why I bought another one last month in December, anticipating doing the upgrades over time as finances allow for whatever customization I feel is necessary.
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I'll be following this, as I am in the same boat. I'll add a link to the thread I had a week or so ago, it has some great information. I have made no decision, but basically am down to Savage/Remington or maybe Tikka. I want to go with a 6.5mm caliber, but don't reload yet, so may stick with .308.

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I would go with the savage model 10, they can be had for around $550. Then I would get a Vortex scope, probably the Diamondback HP 4-16x42. That should put you in the price range of the Howa.

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TC Venture comes in well under 500 most of the time and is a good shooting rifle with a sub MOA guaranty.


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Originally Posted By: JRJ6
up to 400 yards, any rifle 25 caliber and larger is good.


Uh, what about the long .224" bullets? Or the 6mm (.243") ? Lots of those do a fine job at distance every day.

Tikka
Savage
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And thats not all your options, just some of the short action ones. Some of those chamberings would require custom work. All of the cartridges wont bat an eye at 400 yards, that's medium range. Pick any combination. Spend as much on the scope as you do the rifle as a minimum. Optics and ammo are more of a concern than the rifle these days.


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I shoot a Howa 7mm08 and it is a tack driver. I even put the Nikko Sterling scope on it, as that's the way most Howas are set up. The NS scopes are not very well known in this country, but I also have one on my .50cal muzzy.

You may have seen Les Johnson on his predator hunting show, and he often shoots the Howa Axiom and that is an awesome weapon.

In the early 80's, Howa made a rifle for Smith & Wesson. I bought one in the .270 caliber as my first deer rifle, and I still shoot it as my main "go to" rifle! It's still shooting tacks with it too.

But, Howa's are like most other rifle, people who have them ....love them!

As was stated earlier, if you are hunting deer or other big game, you're better off staying with any at .25 or greater; the four most popular are .270, 300 win mag, .30-06,or .308!


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Originally Posted By: BigPig
I would go with the savage model 10, they can be had for around $550. Then I would get a Vortex scope, probably the Diamondback HP 4-16x42. That should put you in the price range of the Howa.


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Originally Posted By: jcneef
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I would go with the savage model 10, they can be had for around $550. Then I would get a Vortex scope, probably the Diamondback HP 4-16x42. That should put you in the price range of the Howa.


i vote this cheers


I vote this as well, you can get a nice scope too if you buy used. In my opinion, the scope is more important than the rifle.

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Never see anyone mention the Ruger line of varmint rifles. I have one in 243 with the laminated stock and it's a good shooting gun. Not sure how they are priced but they have caliber choices in them that could work.


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If Savage, look at the 10T. Cabelas has them for $599, but may be able to find them a little cheaper elsewhere. They come with EGW picatinny rail. Just need scope, rings, bipod and ammo and you're in business.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savage-T-Tactical-Bolt-Action-Rifle/1695199.uts

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Thanks for all the suggestions, definitely be looking into all those I'm thinking about a Remington 700 with the triangular barrel and putting a good scope on it, I'll also be checking out the savage 10, in calibers I already have 243 and 30-06 so I'm thinking of either a 7mm-08 or a 308 not sure yet

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The VTR is a gimmick. If you want a 700 get a SPS, SPS Varmint, or Police model.
Plan on spending an additional $150 for a trigger for any of the Remington's.

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Originally Posted By: Precision_Shooter
The VTR is a gimmick. If you want a 700 get a SPS, SPS Varmint, or Police model.
Plan on spending an additional $150 for a trigger for any of the Remington's.

^This. The VTR is just for looks. The SPS is a better shooting rifle.


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Its the Remington 700 vtr

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Oh OK thanks on that advice good to know, definitely don't wanna buy something that looks better than it shoots

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Its the Remington 700 vtr

Yes, that's the VTR we are talking about. It's just shaped like that for looks and to charge you more. Get the Remington 700 SPS instead.


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Both the sps and 700 police both seem nice, I'm most likely gonna go with a Remington 700 just not sure I'd sps or police and the caliber

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Haha I can't even decide after seeing the reviews on the savage 10t its seems like a good deal on the rifle

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Run a Savage and a Rem 700 side by side on 100 yard paper and they will probably shoot equal.

The Savage has a better trigger, but an ejector that is too small.

The Remington will need a new Timney right away, add $100.

The Tikka has a great trigger, an awesome ejector and extractor design, side bolt release, and will shoot as good as the other two. I've shot lots of rounds out of all three actions.


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The tikka t3 TAC looks nice up

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