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#5571996 - 01/29/15 07:22 PM Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting
tomgib1 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/26/13
Posts: 34
I am in the market to purchase some thermal and / or night vision gear. I want to get suggestions of the best combination of gear to purchase. I would want thermal for spotting while walking or driving,night vision for stalking and thermal for shooting. I really do not want to buy three devices. Can you stalk with thermal? I am trying to figure how to use two. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. I would also like to know which brands and models you like. Flir vs armasight vs atn. OR others. Thanks in advance.

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#5572256 - 01/29/15 09:23 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
stxhunter Offline
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Why not use something like a handheld thermal for scanning/walking and a thermal scope for your rifle?
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#5572290 - 01/29/15 09:35 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
tomgib1 Offline
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Can you effectively walk with thermal versus night vision? Depth perception? Visibility? That is the question. Thanks.

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#5572572 - 01/30/15 05:59 AM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
MDMORROW Offline
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Registered: 01/10/11
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Loc: McKinney & Pottsboro, TX
What kinda budget are you on?
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#5572643 - 01/30/15 07:18 AM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: MDMORROW]
Txkiller Offline
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Originally Posted By: tomgib1
Can you effectively walk with thermal versus night vision? Depth perception? Visibility? That is the question. Thanks.


Depth perception is an issue with all thermals, I spot and stalk with a clip-on as soon as I spot a pig or yote I clip the thermal in front of my optic.

But like mdmorrow said what kind of budget $$$$$$

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#5574176 - 01/30/15 09:02 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
Pittstate Offline
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Registered: 09/01/09
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Thermals play havoc on my eyesight and give me headaches if used to much. That is why I am trying to go with the X-Sight on my gun. I will always use Thermal to scan fields looking for hogs, just don't look through them for long periods of time.

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#5574780 - 01/31/15 10:44 AM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
tomgib1 Offline
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No real budget. I will spend the money. I just want to optimize what I get. I want it to work well in the field. I hate getting things that do not really work. Thanks

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#5580992 - 02/03/15 08:38 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
tomgib1 Offline
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Registered: 09/26/13
Posts: 34
I appreciated the help.

I am settling on two new AR platforms. One with a flir thermal scope. One with nv. I will also get a flir handheld and two pvs 7 nv monoculars with helmets. That way I can hunt with one other person.

That should do it. Now I need to get some more land to hunt.

Thanks

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#5580993 - 02/03/15 08:39 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
tomgib1 Offline
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Registered: 09/26/13
Posts: 34
I appreciated the help.

I am settling on two new AR platforms. One with a flir thermal scope. One with nv. I will also get a flir handheld and two pvs 7 nv monoculars with helmets. That way I can hunt with one other person.

That should do it. Now I need to get some more land to hunt.

Thanks

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#5581019 - 02/03/15 08:53 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Registered: 09/16/09
Posts: 9398
Loc: Lewisville, TX
I use the FLIR RS 32 1x-5x with good success on my AR blk out. I do like the 1-9 a little better with the larger lens for better clarity.
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#5581306 - 02/04/15 01:25 AM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
DavidK Offline
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Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 367
Loc: Albuquerque, NM
How much you got to spend? I'm using a Thermal-Eye for spotting, PVS-14 for stalking and a Armasight Zeus thermal for shooting.

So the best thing to have is a PVS-14 helmet mounted for driving, walking in the dark, also for stalking close, a thermal for spotting and a thermal for shooting.

As for the PVS-7, covers both eyes, which will keep you somewhat from being blind in one eye when its time to shoot, but I like the PVS-14 on one eye, flip it up when time to shoot.
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#5581327 - 02/04/15 05:29 AM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
MDMORROW Offline
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Registered: 01/10/11
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I too would take the 14 over the 7. When scanning with thermal with 7's you're constantly flipping them up and down. With a monocular on your non dominant eye you can scan and still leave your nv eye adjusted. Also have one eye uncovered and adjusted to the dark is helpful. If money is no object look into a psq-20. Tnvc can probably help you. It's a fusion (blended thermal and i2) monocular. Also, there are much better options than flir. Look into the new ir patrol and ir hunter line from ir defense. Do a bunch of research before you buy. It's a big investment and you'll be glad you bought right the first time around. ar15 .com has a dedicated nv forum that has a ton of good info.
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#5582736 - 02/04/15 06:00 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
DigitalFOV Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/26/15
Posts: 267
Loc: Georgia
I am a new guy on the block with a product called Digital Crosshairs. It is a digital night vision scope adapter that comes with an LCD display for targeting. Great for scanning, stalking, or sit an wait hunting. You talked about driving and scanning, be aware that thermal can't see through glass windows, digital IR can.




Not sure about digital, well the military is and all new Apache copter are using digital night vision, not thermal or Gen4

On Apache using digital see -->http://tinyurl.com/kofaj5p

Hunt hogs and yotes terorist like Apaches hunt at www.digitalcrosshairs.net

Our digital night vision adapter kits start at just $400. Don't let the price fool you, digital components are cheaper to manufacture than thermal or I2 tubes.

PM me for more information. Click here to see Apache using Digital info
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#5585205 - 02/05/15 07:26 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
tomgib1 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/26/13
Posts: 34
I am definitely switching to the pvs 14. The help has been tremendous. I will get the gear week after next. Selling my 72 chevelle and all the money is going in the gear. I think it will be more fun. Anyone need a car? Thanks

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#5585417 - 02/05/15 08:39 PM Re: Best combination of thermal and night vision for spot, stalk and shooting [Re: tomgib1]
MDMORROW Offline
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Registered: 01/10/11
Posts: 2532
Loc: McKinney & Pottsboro, TX
Call Vic at TNVC he'll take care of you one the 14. UNV on here can take care of you on the thermal. You should also look into some IR lasers for shooting.
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