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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/22/15 07:55 PM
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Roaming range for Elk?? probley bigger than my androids
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: schmellba99]
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01/23/15 02:45 AM
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Not really. The Elk left and Mule Deer numbers started to take off. Sheep and goats numbers decline and Mule Deer numbers started to grow. Now with Aoudads and Elk numbers increasing the Mule Deer numbers are declining. Interesting is it not? I am a proponent of Native species returning to there range also. These exotic Elk are not and will never be the native ones that were there. What does TPWD consider them? If the consider them a Big Game species they would regulate the season, but they don't. They are considered an exotic. The holy grail of record books does not consider them native either, only an exotic.
Yes, actually you do contradict yourself. Nature formed a balance without elk simply because man decided to overhunt the species - it was not nature's choice, but rather deliberate actions by man. Much like with bison and a host of other species we consider trophies that were a dime a dozen 150 years ago. And as far as the Rocky Mountain elk that were introduced not being native - there is a whole lot of debate on whether Merriam's was even it's own species, or simply a variation of the RM elk. Genetically, there is almost no difference between what we know from Merriam's DNA versus the RM DNA from current elk herds. Essentially, you are really getting into the splitting of hairs here - and peach fuzz hairs at that. TWPD considers them an exotic, but that is purely legislative. For now. But they also readily concede that elk were once native to Texas. Keep in mind that our beloved white tail in Texas are also, for the purposes of this discussion, not native to Texas - many hundreds, if not thousands, of white tails were re-introduced to Texas from Kansas after the depression era, when the state's heard was nearly wiped out due to over hunting. TWPD considers them native - largely because their budget depends on it. You are way off on your WT's... There is only one per herd in the US, and it's not KS. There where som KS deer brought in to E.TX but that was more of enhancement then restocking. Only other place you will find KS genetics is panhandle and okla borders and that's migration/displacement not restocking
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/23/15 04:16 AM
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The glass mountains south and west of Ft Stockton has had elk since the fifties and maybe longer.
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/23/15 12:04 PM
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Good discussion/debate guys Ranchman: I will help you remove some of those pesty elk from your place for No Charge, only because I believe you are one heck of a good fellow
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/23/15 04:13 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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The glass mountains south and west of Ft Stockton has had elk since the fifties and maybe longer. 30's
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/23/15 05:25 PM
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The glass mountains south and west of Ft Stockton has had elk since the fifties and maybe longer. 30's Bet STX was there
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Western]
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01/23/15 07:38 PM
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The glass mountains south and west of Ft Stockton has had elk since the fifties and maybe longer. 30's Bet STX was there If I had been there would be no Elk to talk about today.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: stxranchman]
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01/23/15 07:41 PM
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The glass mountains south and west of Ft Stockton has had elk since the fifties and maybe longer. 30's Bet STX was there If I had been there would be no Elk to talk about today. We all have regrets...........
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/25/15 10:21 AM
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I appreciate everyone's response to my original question....given that, I think I'm going to go after this guy today Is it me or does he have a kicker?
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/25/15 10:45 AM
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Good looking bull, given a chance I would be happy to shoot one like that Then the work starts.
Hope the next pics he is on the ground. Good luck
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/25/15 02:05 PM
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Get him before he takes out your feeder.
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/25/15 02:47 PM
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/25/15 02:56 PM
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/25/15 06:39 PM
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I shot an Elk on Johnson Creek near Ingram about 30 years ago. But I think it just roamed out of a HF somewhere.
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/26/15 02:26 PM
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I'm struggling to understand why you haven't already gone after him? Great looking bull in his prime that probably isn't going to get any bigger and you don't even need a special tag. Get him before he moves onto the neighbors property and you've lost your chance!!!
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
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01/26/15 04:11 PM
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Lets see the pics when you get him..
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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01/26/15 09:12 PM
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Theres nothing like hunting Elk in the rockies to me, glad their in Texas
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Re: Roaming range for Elk??
[Re: Kevin820]
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02/01/15 11:42 PM
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I would also be willing to help out any one that doesn't want roaming around the place messing up Mule Deer. Have gun will travel!
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