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#5555531 - 01/21/15 09:55 AM Roaming range for Elk??
Kevin820 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 12/11/14
Posts: 23
Loc: Houston
Was wondering if anyone can provide me some insight on the roaming range of Elk, Bulls specifically, here in TX? Came across a decent Bull couple weeks ago and decided to let him walk thinking I may seem him later (he was also in a draw which would been hell to get out alone). Someone told me that most bulls are "passing through" and its very little chance I will see him again. Thanks!


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#5555542 - 01/21/15 09:57 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
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Miles if they are traveling and looking for cows or food.
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#5555556 - 01/21/15 10:02 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
Kevin820 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 12/11/14
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Loc: Houston
Well I have cows, food, and plenty of water smile I think I will see him again. Thanks!

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#5555563 - 01/21/15 10:05 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

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Sept during the rut if the cows stay around and he will be back if he does not stay. What county?
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#5555568 - 01/21/15 10:07 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: stxranchman]
Kevin820 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 12/11/14
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Loc: Houston
Terrell....off 2886

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#5555576 - 01/21/15 10:10 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: stxranchman]
Kevin820 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 12/11/14
Posts: 23
Loc: Houston
by the way....my buck/doe ratio is around 1:2.5 to 3. I dont think its an issue in east terrell county

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#5555579 - 01/21/15 10:11 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

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There are a lot of Elk on the Longfellow and surrounding ranches that border it. They are spreading more and more. We have them in Pecos County to the West of Ft. Stockton. Numbers are growing in the past 8yrs from 5 hd to 20-25 or so last year. Really don't like to see the numbers growing since they are out-competing the Mule Deer for the habitat.
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#5555581 - 01/21/15 10:13 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
Navasot Offline
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Registered: 09/22/11
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Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
They are a grazing herd animal... food availability is their range.
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#5555586 - 01/21/15 10:15 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

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They will move to rainfall also just like Mule Deer.
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#5555600 - 01/21/15 10:20 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
Kevin820 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 12/11/14
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Loc: Houston
Yea i have seen more this year than past 3 years combined...I even had a close call on 2886 going 70 mph at night...came up on 2 bulls...scary as hell in headlights

Dont know anything about out-competing mule deer. I will look more into that....I love my mule deer.

I do know that I was surprised how tasty the elk meat is. Made some of the best hamburgers I ever had. Also Millers in Fort Stockton processed the whole elk for around $265...would of cost me at least $600 in houston.

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#5555611 - 01/21/15 10:24 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

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Elk eat the same things Mule Deer eat just more of it and can reach a lot higher to get to it. Our Mule Deer numbers have dropped dramatically as the Elk and Aoudad numbers have risen in the past 8 yrs. Lack of rainfall along with more/bigger animals competing for a poorer desert habitat is not biding well for Mule Deer. We lease so we have no control of the extra unwanted mouths. LO sees them as $$$$$$ we see them as PITA.
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#5555617 - 01/21/15 10:26 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Kevin820]
Navasot Offline
Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
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Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
I bet a range that wasn't native to elk could get wiped out by them pretty quick.
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#5555636 - 01/21/15 10:34 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Navasot]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
I bet a range that wasn't native to elk could get wiped out by them pretty quick.

It can. Some ranches don't want them. The ones that do want Elk protect them and that is making numbers grow. If it gets into an average or above average rainfall pattern for 4-5 yrs out west their numbers will explode. Then the habitat will take a beating when the next drought hits. The Elk will move on to new pastures leaving the ones they are in now.
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#5555780 - 01/21/15 11:48 AM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: stxranchman]
Navasot Offline
Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
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Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: Navasot
I bet a range that wasn't native to elk could get wiped out by them pretty quick.

Only on ranches that don't want them. The ones that do want Elk protect them and that is making numbers grow. If it gets into an average or above average rainfall pattern for 4-5 yrs out west their numbers will explode. Then the habitat will take a beating when the next drought hits. The Elk will move on to new pastures leaving the ones they are in now.


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#5556026 - 01/21/15 01:06 PM Re: Roaming range for Elk?? [Re: Navasot]
schmellba99 Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 178
Loc: Gulf Coast, Texas
Originally Posted By: Navasot
I bet a range that wasn't native to elk could get wiped out by them pretty quick.


Historical Merriam elk range included almost all of west Texas, much of the panhandle and parts of the hill country before they were extirpated from Texas back in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Before the great plains became the farmland of the world, elk would range all across the flatlands grazing and then winter in the mountains. They are also native to areas of Kentucky, TN and Virginia as well.

Elk and mule deer may compete for the same food, but in every other state they seem to co-habitate very well without huge effects on each others numbers.

I'm glad to see elk coming back to TX - they are fun to hunt, awesome to hear bugling during the rut, and are massive animals that provide a huge amount of some of the best venison you can get.

A bull will keep an average of about 60k acres as his home territory and cows tend to stay around 38k acres.

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