The guys that shoot brenchrest where a fraction of a inch makes you drop a point really care about es/sd and accurate powder charge. Which this give you. But not only will it give that but it will do it in 10 seconds per charge. There is nothing out there that can do it as fast and accurate. You can either have fast or you can have accurate, then this came along. For some people like me, reloading is a necessary evil. I need good ammo tuned to the gun but I do not like spending my time reloading. I would rather be shooting. I do not get much free time to spend a day at the range so anything that makes it faster is better.

Walter

Why not eliminate variables? Shooting animals you will most likely not see any difference, I agree. I shoot benchrest but it isn't small groups in paper it's 2.25 inch clays at 400y, that's my favorite game but I'll shoot anything that breaks or does something besides punch a hole in paper. Spanish Fort advertises a 250y small clay event here on the forum that is a lot of fun....yes, a kernel of powder can make a difference. I'm of the opinion that I'm probably worse than a lot of wind readers I shoot against so why not tune my gun to the ultimate precision so it allows me some room to screw up and maybe get away with breaking one I might've missed.

Here's the deal...you can load to the kernel accuracy a load in 10-15 seconds (kernels are different...example, Varget is ~ .02 grains and 4831sc is approx .03 grains). So not only are you getting the consistency in loads you are increasing your efficiency tremendously....it's Jimmy John's freaky fast stuff.

I want one, I can see me with one someday and it has zero to do with what you think of me so it's not bragging and while I could probably build another rifle (that is pretty darn close anyway) this powder loader would help me be able to use my time more wisely. I am not a huge fan of loading when I have to do it and it seems all spring/summer/fall I'm always having to load something. To the point that since the first of December I said I wasn't loading for a month.

I run between 2-4k bullets through my guns a year so yes, it would save me a ton of time. I throw initial load on a Chargemaster then I'm using an A&D FX120i that measures to the kernel now...loading 50 cases is a couple evening event at this rate. But I guarantee you it's some of the most consistent ammo case to case that is on the line at the matches I go too. It's not a fluke that I can win now, it's cuz I've burnt a ton of powder and really refined my loading process for consistency.

I'm with you on the loading Judd.

Walter

I punch animals and paper. I prefer to take as much room for error out as possible. My GEM pro 250 is pretty nifty. Speedy production is not a big concern for me.

I've seen plenty of powder measures in use at benchrest matches. I have yet to see an electronic scale of any type in use.

I'm with Schmellba on this one. The only way you're going to see any real and PRACTICAL benefit with that kind of precision dispensing powder charges is if you sort your brass and bullets with the same level of precision but then there is still the shot-to-shot variation the shooter introduces which cannot be eliminated.

If you tell me that you can see the difference that 0.05 grains of powder makes I'm going to have to throw the flag. IF you could shoot one round with one of the charges, and then use the SAME bullet with the SAME hold and a charge with a little variance you might prove something.

A tenth grain is alls I need.

The wrong wind call will throw out any thoughts of "was my powder charge loaded to the single kernal accuracy". But I'm not a benchrester, so the Chargemaster is as accurate as I have ever had, and faster than anything I have ever used.

so i have loaded on one while taking a class. The thing is more precise than a charge master. But where you really save is in time. It takes 5 seconds to have the proper powder charge ready, whereas the charge master will take more.

For what it is worth. During load development we ran the Prometheus against the CM and the ES dropped dramatically. I think my ES for 10 shots was around 5fps. Now will 5fps ES versus 15 make a huge difference, most likely not. Is my shooting ability going to cause more variation, most likely. But if i had the money i would buy one for the time savings.

Depends on how far you're shooting at over 500 you will see a difference.


I honestly hope my competitors think like most of y'all . Also, I do sort bullets...although the last two lots of 105 hybrids I got were consistent enough it was really a waste of time. I've also weighed cases but I've read enough articles to make me think that is most likely a waste of time. When you can reduce the SD number down below 5 (I've got one gun shooting 2 SD over 5 shots) the gun will shoot.

I know that most on this board would not benefit from measuring powder to this degree of accuracy but there is a place for it. Also, I have a GemPro250...for the $ that is the best scale going for uber precision.

Judd, how are you dispensing for the GemPro250?