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#5548635 - 01/17/15 04:28 PM Transporting deer question
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On the TPWD it says about transporting a quartered deer that
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A hunter may skin and quarter a deer (two forequarters, two hindquarters, and two backstraps) and possess for transport, provided the quartered deer is tagged and proof of sex accompanies the deer.


That's put kind of oddly. Is the tag to be placed in the ice chest with the meat, or left on the head?

Also, is it legal to strip your tags (all of them) off the license or must the number of tags removed equal the number of entries on your log?
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#5548655 - 01/17/15 04:43 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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I can tell you from SECONDHAND experience the GW will write a ticket for every missing tag that isn't accounted for in the game log. Don't know if the GW was right, but my buddy had 2 missing tags and hadn't filled out his log and got a ticket for each one.

A little more back story on that - Two of my buddies were on a lease in Llano. Deer are usually pretty thick in the hill country, but they hunted all season and saw 2 deer. They felt like something wasn't right and then one morning on the way to the blinds they drove past a gut pile in a creek bottom. Wasn't from them, and no one else should have been on the lease. After the morning hunt they were sitting in the cabin eating breakfast and the Game Wardens literally busted in, guns drawn. They immediately grabbed one and took him 2-300 yards out into the adjacent pasture, and kept the other there at the house. They started 'questioning' both of them.. but they weren't asking them questions, they were accusing them of POACHING!! They had gotten reports of people out on the lease spotlighting a few nights before that. They interrogated the dog out of both of them, all the while my buddies don't even know what was going on. They had already seen the gut pile so the evidence was against them.

Long story short, they couldn't prove anything, and wrote a ticket because my buddy had 2 missing tags and nothing in his game log.

We know the land owner's son had been out there with friends mudding in several pastures, best we could figure they went out spotlighting while they were at it. Would explain why they never saw any deer and the gut piles.
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#5548659 - 01/17/15 04:46 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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To answer your question, you have to keep proof of sex with the meat until you get it to its final destination (permanent residence, processing place, etc..). I'll keep the head with the tag attached to the horns, or stapled to a doe's ear.
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#5548661 - 01/17/15 04:47 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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Yes, but. smile

Does that mean the head has to be in the ice chest with the meat or is in the vehicle good enough?

And how did those guys prove they were leasing the place? (Note to self - carry some sort of proof that you are leasing.)
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#5548663 - 01/17/15 04:48 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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i keep it in the back of the truck with the cooler, but not inside the cooler


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#5548665 - 01/17/15 04:51 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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The GW knew the LO, and I'm sure the LO gave him their names. We think the LO is the one who called the GW on them. It was a really sketchy deal. The last guys on the place left in an uproar.. probably for similar reasons.
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#5548666 - 01/17/15 04:53 PM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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Also, they had to give the LO a week's notice before they went out there to hunt. If that's not sketchy... confused2
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#5549518 - 01/18/15 09:02 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Once I get a deer in the cooler, I keep the tag in my pocket. That way, it doesn't get lost on the way home. I lost one years ago after I taped the tag to the antlers. I also been stopped one time by a GW with a deer in the cooler. When he looked at the deer head, he asked if I killed it. I said yep and pulled the tag out from my pocket. After he looked at it, the only thing he said was, "Nice deer"!!!

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#5549533 - 01/18/15 09:11 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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As long as you can present the tag to an officer when he asks for it seems logical.

As for the number missing from your license equalling the number of entries on the back, that too seems logical when you consider you can be fined for either not tagging a deer, and for not recording the harvest. In fact, I once kept a tag that I removed incorrectly from my license for that very reason. I never used the tag but wanted to have in case an officer asked why the harvest wasn't recorded on my license. Otherwise, how would an officer be able to verify that you haven't exceeded your county bag limits, or that you have already taken a 13-inch Buck in a given county?
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#5549576 - 01/18/15 09:39 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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Dan, the issue is that GWs seem to like to give tickets for things. They seem to follow every letter of the law, even when it is vague, rather than letting people walk who are obviously following the spirit of the law.

Maybe the best way would be to put the tags in a plastic bag and throw that in the cooler on top of the ice along with the meat. That way you are very unlikely to lose the tags, too. Less likely than if you put them in a pocket, even.
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#5549580 - 01/18/15 09:48 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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I know it is my OCD at work, but when I get my license I like to strip off all the tags and throw away the ones I know I won't be using that year, like turkey and mule deer, or whatever, and stack the remaining ones on top of my license when I put it into the holder.
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#5549584 - 01/18/15 09:51 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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And as for how would the officer know you haven't exceeded the limit for that county -- that's indicated on the log. It's easy to remember to tag a deer and forget to log it, but the opposite isn't true. If you log, then you remember to tag because tagging is the first thing you have to do. If you were going to break the law purposefully you wouldn't tag and then not log -- you'd not tag and not log.



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#5549585 - 01/18/15 09:51 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
Maybe the best way would be to put the tags in a plastic bag and throw that in the cooler on top of the ice along with the meat. That way you are very unlikely to lose the tags, too. Less likely than if you put them in a pocket, even.


In most cases, wouldn't the tag would be attached to the antlers or ear on the head being carried as proof of sex which is also a requirement?
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#5549594 - 01/18/15 10:00 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
Maybe the best way would be to put the tags in a plastic bag and throw that in the cooler on top of the ice along with the meat. That way you are very unlikely to lose the tags, too. Less likely than if you put them in a pocket, even.


In most cases, wouldn't the tag would be attached to the antlers or ear on the head being carried as proof of sex which is also a requirement?


Sure, but the issue is the regs say the tags have to be carried "with the meat". So, you have to throw the heads into the cooler, or remove the tags from the heads and throw the tags in the cooler, or (and that was the question) perhaps having the tagged heads anywhere in the vehicle is okay.
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#5549596 - 01/18/15 10:04 AM Re: Transporting deer question [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: postoak
Maybe the best way would be to put the tags in a plastic bag and throw that in the cooler on top of the ice along with the meat. That way you are very unlikely to lose the tags, too. Less likely than if you put them in a pocket, even.


In most cases, wouldn't the tag would be attached to the antlers or ear on the head being carried as proof of sex which is also a requirement?


Sure, but the issue is the regs say the tags have to be carried "with the meat". So, you have to throw the heads into the cooler, or remove the tags from the heads and throw the tags in the cooler, or (and that was the question) perhaps having the tagged heads anywhere in the vehicle is okay.


This is true.

Whatever the case, the point never to be missed is that no one is guilty just because an officer hands them a ticket. In the end, the final decision rests with a judge and his decision if a law was truly broken.

Sometimes, your best move is to take the ticket with a smile while knowing you will have your day in court.
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