Found a smoking deal here on the forum for two remote Dogtra launchers and a sweet Blank pistol. So I jumped on it. Before this I was using a manual launcher and a kids cap gun. Already working on Bleu's backing this morning, they work like a champ! Thanks kshorthairs, I will get many years of use out of all of it and you are welcomed to come use them anytime you want. I even have the pigeons.