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#5547044 - 01/16/15 01:35 PM Backing the dogs
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I just had a phone conversation with my friend who has the red setters. He's on a five day two ranch south Texas loop. They used only his dogs at the first stop. He used the word exasperated when telling me about the people approaching the covey point. Two different pointed coveys got up while people were smelling the roses. It really is like walking into and out of a beautiful painting all day long, but the covey is not painted there. I know you guys with dogs have all seen it. You need to be aggressive when the dogs are on point. Any stories or comments?
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#5547070 - 01/16/15 01:48 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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I disagree. 2 of my dogs run 400 to 800 yards so it can take me 20 minutes to reach them sometimes. Still pointing and holding birds when i get there. Thats the whole reason for pointers so they cover ground so i dont have to

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#5547106 - 01/16/15 02:05 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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In my mind Mr. Bill is talking about when you get to the dogs. You don't stand behind them counting the fleas on their butts. You walk in with a purpose.
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#5547111 - 01/16/15 02:09 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: Barny Topwater]
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Originally Posted By: Barny Topwater
In my mind Mr. Bill is talking about when you get to the dogs. You don't stand behind them counting the fleas on their butts. You walk in with a purpose.


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#5547123 - 01/16/15 02:20 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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Try it with a woman on the truck.
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#5547182 - 01/16/15 02:57 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: blanked]
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Originally Posted By: blanked
I disagree. 2 of my dogs run 400 to 800 yards so it can take me 20 minutes to reach them sometimes. Still pointing and holding birds when i get there. Thats the whole reason for pointers so they cover ground so i dont have to


I'm not worried about my dogs flushing, but some birds run off. Some don't. I lost an old pointer at the end of the season years ago, and returned the following year to find the skeleton of the pointer pointing the skeleton of a quail.


Edited by bill oxner (01/16/15 03:37 PM)
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#5547251 - 01/16/15 03:28 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: blanked
I disagree. 2 of my dogs run 400 to 800 yards so it can take me 20 minutes to reach them sometimes. Still pointing and holding birds when i get there. Thats the whole reason for pointers so they cover ground so i dont have to


I'm not worried about my dogs flushing, but some birds run off. Some don't. I lost an old pointer at he end of the season years ago, and returned the following year to find the skeleton of the pointer pointing the skeleton of a quail.


bs roflmao
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#5547307 - 01/16/15 04:08 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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I'm pretty mellow in the field. It would take a whole lot to upset me.
If the birds move without flushing because someone was being slow, my dog will relocate.
I go hunting because I enjoy it, and being out in the field relaxes me.
If it made me mad most of the time, I would find a new hobby.
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#5547447 - 01/16/15 06:01 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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I got a call from a friend last night who is really not a quail hunter, but he got invited. It was his first time to hunt off a tall truck (his words not mine). The dogs pointed. He is left handed so he went to the left side. We all know that he was180 degrees off.
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#5547551 - 01/16/15 07:03 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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This is a good reason I hunt alone. I don't understand why it matters if you approach the birds from the left or right side of the dog depending on if you shoot left or right handed.

Also if it is what Bill means and the birds flush while your still behind the dog instead of in front of the dog its a wash out. I don't buy that. As long as the birds are in range is all that matters

Some of you shouldn't bother hunting wild chukars . None of this stuff applies


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#5547562 - 01/16/15 07:09 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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I hunted a few yrs with a shool ad. man.. left handed.. he refused to go into a point on right side.. thus he was shooting left to right.. and claiming ever bird that fell.. later he went with wife to a dude ranch vacation.. they had a single shotgun..and pigeon thrower on ranch.. his wife was hitting everything.. and he miss all he shot at..go figure

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#5547712 - 01/16/15 08:36 PM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: blanked]
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Originally Posted By: blanked
This is a good reason I hunt alone. I don't understand why it matters if you approach the birds from the left or right side of the dog depending on if you shoot left or right handed.

Also if it is what Bill means and the birds flush while your still behind the dog instead of in front of the dog its a wash out. I don't buy that. As long as the birds are in range is all that matters

Some of you shouldn't bother hunting wild chukars . None of this stuff applies



I was wondering what he meant. I've never heard that. I don't know all the ins and outs of quail hunting etiquette though. Would hate to get talked about after a hunt.
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#5548029 - 01/17/15 07:28 AM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: iliketohunt]
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he may not wanted to clean& eat clay piegons
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#5548043 - 01/17/15 07:43 AM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: iliketohunt]
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Originally Posted By: iliketohunt
Originally Posted By: blanked
This is a good reason I hunt alone. I don't understand why it matters if you approach the birds from the left or right side of the dog depending on if you shoot left or right handed.

Also if it is what Bill means and the birds flush while your still behind the dog instead of in front of the dog its a wash out. I don't buy that. As long as the birds are in range is all that matters

Some of you shouldn't bother hunting wild chukars . None of this stuff applies



I was wondering what he meant. I've never heard that. I don't know all the ins and outs of quail hunting etiquette though. Would hate to get talked about after a hunt.


What if the birds flush while you are still getting off the truck or loading your guns? That is what was happening to my friend. I used the term, "smelling the roses." He used the term, "dicking around."
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#5548085 - 01/17/15 08:22 AM Re: Backing the dogs [Re: bill oxner]
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I knew what you are referring to Bill. The next scenario....Dog on point...locked down hard...how may times have you seen a person tip-toe up to the flush? I want the birds in the air while it seems some appear that they are sneaking up on the bird. I tell my hunting mates to just stay even with me...go as fast as I go...when flushing.

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