This right here is the truth. All the mulies, antelope, and bears we shoot sit around in sage all day. There's always more than enough locals who want the meat though. More power to them, but I'll stick to beef.

SHOTTTTTSSSS FIRED!!!!!!!!!

When I reel in fish from the deep on my deep sea fishing trips. They taste 10x worse then those I catch with top water lures.

to be fair, i thought the argument was that in general most believe that a deer shot from 700 yards will run further after being shot than one shot at 100 yards, so if you buy into the idea that a deer that runs far after being shot tastes worse...well, there ya go.

And that's all it was. But, as you can see, unlike myself, most people knock them flat. I had this weird concept, and forgive me, that distance would make the deer harder to knock down in its tracks. So, take that out of the equation. I just seen two deer, killed on the same day, one ran, one dropped. When I cut the hams up, the
meat seemed not engorged in blood on the dropped deer. Maybe, it doesn't make a hill of beans and I'm good with that too.

Oh,Sneaky, --I'm still waiting on your acceptance. Step up to the plate big boy.

I have nothing against long range shooting other than the increased chances of misidentifying a buck or a deer's age that is standing 400-800 yards away. To me it just leaves too much room for error on a trophy deer

I never claimed I could outshoot you, so your challenge is pointless, at best.

I wanted to know what distance had to do with how the meat tastes. Since you believe deer are knocked down at close distance by bullets, there's little point in discussing this with you. You are absolutely clueless.

Hey, no hard feelings sneakless.

Of course.

I wonder now if shooting them with lead bullets as opposed to unleaded bullets if that can ruin the taste of the meat at longer ranges if the critter runs. Maybe that's the metallic taste I sense in some deer that I eat.

Great thread

OK just curious - long range shooters - how do you age and judge a trophy deer from 400-800 yards ? or tell if a doe is really a nubbin buck? I am all ears - not attacking - just asking to be enlightened

I'm not a long range shooter, but my guess would be a spotting scope. I use a spotting scope to identify if I want to pursue a deer or not. They can show you everything you need down to the last detail.

If I don't have the glass or am not given the time to I.D. I let it walk.

I do kill things at long range and teach others how to do it. However, I kill hogs, coyotes, and prairie dogs at long range. I have never, nor do I wish to kill or attempt to kill deer at long range. If the giant buck or bull presented a shot beyond 500 I would not rush it. Rushed shots are botched shots. If I can I.D. and feel comfortable with my position and steadiness I will take the shot, if not I won't. I also know what the cartridge I am shooting can do at various distances, so I make sure and have the ft/lbs needed upon arrival, and the BC needed to get it there.

I could make a 500 yrd kill shot drunk with one eye closed shooting free hand with one arm, with a 22-250. Don't see what the problem is here. Hell my 4 yr old can hit at 200 yrds in high wind. You don't have to be good, just have to be lucky.

Well crap! Come to my range and give ME a lesson, cuz I can't do that!

I hunt East Texas its hard to get a lot of long shots past 300 yrds. but I did kill a 5 year old buck that was workin a valley pretty hard. The wind and set up made it hard for me to make adjustments, so I sat on a big hill with a tricked out sporter Rem 721 30 06 with a bi pod and waited on him one evening. He came out pushin some does around. I screamed out loud twice to stop him. when he stopped I put the Pentax crosshairs on the top of his back and eased into the trigger. He just stood there. I told myself my god he is far away, so I aimed about a foot above his shoulder and let it rip. It was like watching it through a tv screen. I recovered from the 30 06s recoil before the bullet hit the deer and watched the buck respond to the hit. The deer was hit in the heart and ran down to the ground. He was dead and only went 15 yrds. It was cool, but don't expect to shoot one that far away anytime soon. The shot was about 500 long steps away. I even found a shed antler on the walk to the buck after the shot. The margin of error is high and you can wound and loose deer at long distances. I dont own a range finder, Too much bull to carry around.

I took this as a bit of sarcasm.... you're funny

Doing it the way you're doing it, yeah.

Taking a poke outsidr 200 without a range finder is a must have. If you don't want to carry it, dont shoot beyond 200 yards. And "about a foot over the back" is asking to wound lots of animals. Get the right equipment and learn how to do it right, or dont do it at all.

Quality optics help identifying game.

HEY FIREMAN JG that deer has been hangin on my wall for 8 years. I'm not shootin paper I'm shootin wild animals and that one is dead. I don't want any electronics with me when I'm in the woods. I don't set up with that kind of shot in mind but when I'm hunting something I want I normally kill it. More often than not in my hunting situations, if I don't kill it when I see it's not going to presented again. I hear stories all the time about people passing a shot because it wasn't perfect, XXXX that they should of shot because they never saw that deer again. It is not an exact science, it is hunting. I just watched a show on the last hunters and gatherers in the world. They were natives and they did some missing while hunting with hand made bows and arrows in Africa. Try telling them they need a range finder. They survive on berries, nuts, and wild game. The biggest deer I ever saw in the wild I let get passed me because I thought I might let him get closer. I never saw him again and this haunts me, so if one comes out and I want it I'm going to try to kill it. thanks

Your post on this thread and others speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

Thanks. Thought the same thing about you.