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#5547001 - 01/16/15 01:04 PM LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS?
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So I see guys post that they shoot game at 300, 500, 800+ yards. I have a hard time believing that game drops in its tracks. (A lightning kill) Which seems to indicate the game runs, engorges the muscle with blood and adrenaline, and thus is more gamey than I shoot at 125 yards; that is stone dead before his head hits the ground.
It seems a quick kill equals less stressed meat? Or is it just about the "kill" at 400+?

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#5547007 - 01/16/15 01:08 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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there was a video on youtube of a kid shooting an elk at 800 or more and it dropped,rolled

I have a buddy that shot deer at 60 yds with 30-06 and deer ran across fence, 3X

all depends on the indian

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#5547150 - 01/16/15 02:38 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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I eat venison from about 10-15 different deer a year, and personally I don't find there to be much difference whether they be buck, doe, young, old, shot at 10 yards or shot at 1000.
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#5547160 - 01/16/15 02:46 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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Whether they drop or run has to do with shot placement, bullet construction, and impact velocity. Hit them in the spine, and they drop, regardless of distance. Fragmenting bullets, like Bergers, also have a tendency to drop them even when shot in the vitals. These bullets also tend to perform better at distance. If you're going to demonize long distance hunting, there are much better arguments to go with.
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#5547194 - 01/16/15 03:02 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Sneaky]
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If deer don't taste different-your taste buds must be off. There's a reason a bull goes to hamburger and not to the fine steak table. As to the clean, quick, kill-I'm just thinking a deer that runs and fills those quads and muscles with blood(like pumping up at the gym) he or she might be more gamey. Slaughter houses kill the animal quickly and get the blood out fast.

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#5547198 - 01/16/15 03:03 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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Originally Posted By: Huntmaster
Or is it just about the "kill" at 400+?


Dang right!

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#5547252 - 01/16/15 03:28 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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I bleed all my game meat out in a ice chest before processing. Never noticed any difference if they drop or run.
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#5547272 - 01/16/15 03:42 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Sneaky]
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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
If you're going to demonize long distance hunting, there are much better arguments to go with.


agreed

I am guilty of stoking the fire

but I do get tired of hearing about what's right / wrong on distance

do whatever you're capable of, only you can tell yourself what's right

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#5547279 - 01/16/15 03:46 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Drop Tine]
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Originally Posted By: Drop Tine
I bleed all my game meat out in a ice chest before processing. Never noticed any difference if they drop or run.

Don't stir that pot, everyone knows bleeding meat out does nothing......

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#5547282 - 01/16/15 03:49 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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Originally Posted By: Huntmaster
If deer don't taste different-your taste buds must be off. There's a reason a bull goes to hamburger and not to the fine steak table. As to the clean, quick, kill-I'm just thinking a deer that runs and fills those quads and muscles with blood(like pumping up at the gym) he or she might be more gamey. Slaughter houses kill the animal quickly and get the blood out fast.
Well, being that every archery deer not hit in the spine runs it's tail off, should we not archery hunt either?
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#5547287 - 01/16/15 03:52 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Well, being that every archery deer not hit in the spine runs it's tail off, should we not archery hunt either?


good point

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#5547294 - 01/16/15 03:56 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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Originally Posted By: Huntmaster
If deer don't taste different-your taste buds must be off. There's a reason a bull goes to hamburger and not to the fine steak table. As to the clean, quick, kill-I'm just thinking a deer that runs and fills those quads and muscles with blood(like pumping up at the gym) he or she might be more gamey. Slaughter houses kill the animal quickly and get the blood out fast.


Okay, so what does that have to do with distance?
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#5547354 - 01/16/15 05:00 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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The key to DRT shots is to focus shot placement on the central nervous system.

The question is how far can one reliably make a CNS shot?

For some folks that might be 50 yards, or not at all, and for others it might be 500 yards.

Depends on the person as well as conditions.

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#5547408 - 01/16/15 05:38 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Huntmaster]
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I give my meat away but I haven't noticed a difference in taste due to how far I shot it at

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#5547717 - 01/16/15 08:37 PM Re: LONG RANGE KILL SHOTS? [Re: Sneaky]
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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Whether they drop or run has to do with shot placement, bullet construction, and impact velocity. Hit them in the spine, and they drop, regardless of distance. Fragmenting bullets, like Bergers, also have a tendency to drop them even when shot in the vitals. These bullets also tend to perform better at distance. If you're going to demonize long distance hunting, there are much better arguments to go with.

This and I'll add some. A lot of people use tougher bullets on short shots to ensure penetration. This means less expansion and a smaller but longer wound channel.

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