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Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545069 01/15/15 08:36 PM
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Hey, I don't need to book a hunt. I recognize two of their public spots.

GigEmAggies, you got a boat? I can give ya GPS coordinates to them. Beating them to their spot would be freakin' awesome...


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ha yeh man that really would be! Unfortunately I don't have my own rig.....


They're not looking for one thing right....they're looking for one thing wrong.


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now that's funny.

Also, death mask Fridays? Apparently I've been doing things wrong. #hashtag

Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545117 01/15/15 08:57 PM
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Does their guided hunt come with a hat or a decal? This could change everything banana

I see lots of East Tx in those pics

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I thought hashtags were twitter does gheybook do them too? confused2


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Re: Is this normal? [Re: Judd] #5545182 01/15/15 09:42 PM
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I thought hashtags were twitter does gheybook do them too? confused2


Yup....so does instaghey


They're not looking for one thing right....they're looking for one thing wrong.


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Re: Is this normal? [Re: LarryCopper] #5545523 01/15/15 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: LarryCopper
Hey, I don't need to book a hunt. I recognize two of their public spots.

GigEmAggies, you got a boat? I can give ya GPS coordinates to them. Beating them to their spot would be freakin' awesome...


"Hey, remember me?!" roflmao

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ha yeh man that really would be! Unfortunately I don't have my own rig.....


I'll volunteer mine.

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Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545531 01/16/15 12:02 AM
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Cody is a good guy I call BS!!!

Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545599 01/16/15 12:41 AM
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He's not saying Cody is the guy. He's asking Cody's advice since he guides on public lakes


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Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545648 01/16/15 01:05 AM
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I took a guide to hunt public and did it twice and plan to do it again. I used Lance Vick who I found on THF and he guides fork. The reason for me was because I wanted a bull can and he put us on them. I don't have a boat and used his expertise on that lake to get what I wanted.

I plan to also do the same for my trophy redhead on the coast.

Not everyone makes bank and can afford 20k boats and high dollar leases.

Re: Is this normal? [Re: GigEmAggies] #5545665 01/16/15 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: GigEmAggies

To me this seems extremely unprofessional. What do you guys think? I know Cody Malone does quite a bit of guiding on public waters....what's your take Cody?

Lol, I bet Cody will not answer that question. I have ask many guides that hunt public (including Cody), how they keep clients from hunting their spots, and never got an answer. But I always suspected you basically pick and choose who you take, you take someone that most likely will not hunt your spot, probably they hunt once or twice a year, and don't have a boat, etc... Not someone that hunts 30 days a year.

And to your point about "there are no secrete spots", I see that comment a lot and it makes me laugh. Of course there are no secrete spots. You can look at a hunting map, and see where you can and cant hunt, so yeah no secrete spots, public information. But can I look at a hunting map and know where the ducks are? No, you got to scout it, that takes time and money. And you got to keep scouting because birds move with pressure. If a guide finds a spot holding birds, and the rest of the Barneys are not on to that spot yet, you can bet a guide is not going to just take anyone to that spot. Otherwise that guide is not very smart. He is going to take a client he can trust, or he knows does not have the means, or interest, in hunting this spot.

I'm just applying some common sense. Guiding on public lakes (especially high pressure areas) is a flawed business model. It should be illegal. Hunting land is scares these days, it should be for tax payers to enjoy, not for tax payers to exploit and profit from. JMO!!

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So the guys who hire guides don't have to pay taxes? That's weird.


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Originally Posted By: Hayraker
So the guys who hire guides don't have to pay taxes? That's weird.

Yeah, that is weird, who said that?

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This is what you can call a self-correcting problem. If you want to guide people on public water but won't guide people on public for fear of what they might do then you probably won't be a guide for too long if this is your primary source of income. If you can afford to do it for fun then more power to you. That is what America is all about. However, America is also all about modern technology too so word of your poor business plan will spread quickly. Good luck!

Re: Is this normal? [Re: Guy] #5545779 01/16/15 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: GigEmAggies

To me this seems extremely unprofessional. What do you guys think? I know Cody Malone does quite a bit of guiding on public waters....what's your take Cody?

Lol, I bet Cody will not answer that question. I have ask many guides that hunt public (including Cody), how they keep clients from hunting their spots, and never got an answer. But I always suspected you basically pick and choose who you take, you take someone that most likely will not hunt your spot, probably they hunt once or twice a year, and don't have a boat, etc... Not someone that hunts 30 days a year.

And to your point about "there are no secrete spots", I see that comment a lot and it makes me laugh. Of course there are no secrete spots. You can look at a hunting map, and see where you can and cant hunt, so yeah no secrete spots, public information. But can I look at a hunting map and know where the ducks are? No, you got to scout it, that takes time and money. And you got to keep scouting because birds move with pressure. If a guide finds a spot holding birds, and the rest of the Barneys are not on to that spot yet, you can bet a guide is not going to just take anyone to that spot. Otherwise that guide is not very smart. He is going to take a client he can trust, or he knows does not have the means, or interest, in hunting this spot.

I'm just applying some common sense. Guiding on public lakes (especially high pressure areas) is a flawed business model. It should be illegal. Hunting land is scares these days, it should be for tax payers to enjoy, not for tax payers to exploit and profit from. JMO!!


So you freely admit that the guides have to spend time, money, and effort to find the best spots to guide and then say they shouldn't be able to charge for it. Nice.

I guess guided fishing should be illegal too if it's on a public lake?

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So the guys who hire guides don't have to pay taxes? That's weird.

Yeah, that is weird, who said that?


So I guess your saying that the taxpayers who hire the guides don't enjoy the time they spend hunting the public water with the guide?


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Only thing I wish changed was for guides on public fresh water be regulated/licensed like saltwater.

There are still some secret holes out there. Especially with the weather patterns the last few years.

I don't see most guys hiring guides actually figuring out how to get back to most spots at least for morning hunts.


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Had that happen before.. But I wasn't paying him and turns out he checked my Facebook and found out I use to know his wife

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Had that happen before.. But I wasn't paying him and turns out he checked my Facebook and found out I use to know his wife


I bet that most guys on here would trade their wives for a good hunting spot.

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So the guys who hire guides don't have to pay taxes? That's weird.

Yeah, that is weird, who said that?


So I guess your saying that the taxpayers who hire the guides don't enjoy the time they spend hunting the public water with the guide?

No, that is not what I'm saying.

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Originally Posted By: DocHorton

So you freely admit that the guides have to spend time, money, and effort to find the best spots to guide and then say they shouldn't be able to charge for it.

Shouldn't be able to sell it, is what I'm saying, on public lakes.

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I guess guided fishing should be illegal too if it's on a public lake?

Public lakes can hold a lot more fisherman than duck hunters. You can pack fisherman in ontop of each other, can't do that with duck hunting.

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I am on the other side of the fence as most on this board. I am not against guides on public. There are people that have to hire a guide. If guides were not allowed, some people would get left behind at no fault of their own. The most gripe I see is about bad behavior on the guide's part. So I say deal with the bad behavior, not ban all the guides.

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So the guys who hire guides don't have to pay taxes? That's weird.

Yeah, that is weird, who said that?


So I guess your saying that the taxpayers who hire the guides don't enjoy the time they spend hunting the public water with the guide?

No, that is not what I'm saying.
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