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#5539955 - 01/13/15 10:17 AM Built a stainless media tumbler!
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Dave's design, and his parts, I just had to get it to all work together. 1/2 HP motor, 2 gallon vessel with 10 pounds of media, water, Dawn, Lemishine, and 150 pieces of 22-250 brass. I think I'll be able to put more brass in, but I'll wait and see how this batch comes out.

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#5540001 - 01/13/15 10:33 AM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Nice! The SS media definitely cleans well. Once you have cleaned some batches of brass and start shooting them in your 6.5 CM and 7 mag, chrono them and shoot them at distance, and let me know if you get any higher ES variances than you did with standard media. I know several shooters who went away from the SS media for this reason.
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#5540043 - 01/13/15 10:47 AM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Dang I wish you wouldn't have told me that!

So far Dave has tumbled and annealed for me. Every time he did the ammo shot just a tad tighter, 22-250 and 260 Rem. This 22-250 brass has been loaded 7 times. I'm actually getting a start on it four months before I head to the prairie dog towns. That is not how I've rolled in the past. Two weeks before the trip a mad scramble to load 500 rounds of match ammo. hammer
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#5540124 - 01/13/15 11:14 AM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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500 rounds....I don't have 500 pieces of brass for a single gun I own grin I think I might have 350 for the 6slr but I've only formed and prepped 200 cases. I figure I should be able to get through a season with 200 cases. We'll see...

Oh and that ES/SD problem could be bare brass in necks...from my understanding lubing the cases or bullets will/should fix that. Might think about it, just saying.
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#5540168 - 01/13/15 11:35 AM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: Judd]
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Scrounged up enough brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor to get 500 for it too. Forcing myself to get through all of it once fired, then load it all again, repeat. Competing I have ran second and third loaded as well as virgin. I would reserve the second loaded for when they put us on paper at bitsy targets. I decided no more! I want all the brass to be the same.

500 for the 22-250 is to pile up dead prairie dogs in the Texas panhandle. I shoot those in two days.

So lube the bullets with what? Geez now I'm letting a Benchrester talk me into one more freakin step!
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#5540281 - 01/13/15 12:23 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Looks great. What did you us for your media container?
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#5540332 - 01/13/15 12:46 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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2 gallon water jug.
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#5540424 - 01/13/15 01:17 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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I've heard of guys seating bullets shallower that they want them for storage, and then seating them to desired length just before shooting.

I wonder if tumbling bullets with some carnauba was would help prevent cold weld...but I've never seen (or sought) information on cold weld harming accuracy. And then there's the question as to how the manufacturers deal with it---or not.

I'll bet you could tumble 500 rifle cases in that setup, JG. I should a just built one like that, but I guess I just am not ambitious enough!
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#5540442 - 01/13/15 01:24 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
I've heard of guys seating bullets shallower that they want them for storage, and then seating them to desired length just before shooting.


I do that...I have probably 200 cases loaded right now and not a single one is loaded to OAL that I'll shoot. Majority of the time I do .010 shallower and just bumpt them either at the range or night before.


Also, I think HBN coating would be the schizzle if a guy was looking to coat bullets.
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#5540516 - 01/13/15 01:52 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Just saw your comments the other thread...do you know a link to a good article on cold weld? If I have an inkling as to what HBN is, it sure doesn't ring a bell.
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#5540555 - 01/13/15 02:05 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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I'm not sure I believe in the whole cold weld deal. I'll be the first to admit that some of the stuff I do is more along the lines of "it can't hurt, especially if (insert any scenario or theory) is true"...kind of a safe that sorry situation.

What I can tell you is the longer bullets sit in a case the more initial pressure it takes for that bullet to move when I finish my seating (reference the .010 shallow I posted above). I don't know if that is cold weld or what but I do believe there is something going on.

Google "HBN bullet coating"...it is newer stuff than moly, not near as nasty to coat or clean out of a barrel. There is a lot of longer range benchrest (Fclass/or 600y benchrest in paper) guys that are using it. Some guys are even using it on their hunting bullets. It is a product that primarily usage is womens cosmetics.
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#5540573 - 01/13/15 02:10 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: RiverRider]
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Don't know if I'm brave enough to try 500 pieces at once. I checked thos brass at 2 hours and it looked pretty good with primer pockets 80% clean, but the brass had no polish to it. At 3 hours the primer pockets were 90% clean and the brass had some polish to it. At 4 hours there was not a major change from the 3 hour mark. Guess I know my duration with that recipe.

Also, at the 2 and 3 hour mark I still had a film of carbon inside the case. So maybe it'll leave behind just enough carbon to satisfy Judd. peep


And I have wached him seat bullets at my range right before he shot them. Weirdo!
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#5540592 - 01/13/15 02:17 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Schmellba's idea that galvanic corrosion is responsible for any inconsistency strikes me as very logical, and I suspect that is what cold weld actually is. Time for a little reading,I guess!
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#5540649 - 01/13/15 02:37 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: FiremanJG]
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rofl There's a first...JG actually worries about what I think rofl
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#5540732 - 01/13/15 03:26 PM Re: Built a stainless media tumbler! [Re: Judd]
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rofl There's a first...JG actually worries about what I think rofl


Crap! Imma have to start drinking beer early!
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