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01/13/15 01:40 PM
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Will a .308 bolt face work for a .284 case or should I use a magnum bolt face?
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Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .384 +/-
17 Rem, 204 Ruger. 222 Rimingtion, and 223 Rem.
Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .470 +/-
225 Winchester, 22/250 Remingtion, 6mm Norma BR, 243 Win, 250 Savage, 260 Rem,
6.5/284 Norma, 7/08 Rem, 284 win, 300 Savage, 308 Win, 338 Federal, 35 Rem, and
the 358 Winchester.
Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540+/-
223 WSSM, 243 WSSM, 25 WSSM, 7mm Rem saum, 7mm WSM, 300 Rem saum, 300
WSM, 325 WSM, and the 350 Rem Mag.
Long actions with a bolt face .DIA of .470 +/-
220 Swift, 6mm Rem, 240 Weatherby Mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 Rem, 257 Weatherby ,
6.5x55 Swedish, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 Rem, 30/06 Springfield,
8mm Mauser, 338/06 A Square, and the 35 Whelen.
Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/-
264 Win Mag, 270 weatherby Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Weatherby Mag, 7 STW,
7mm Rem Ultra Mag, 300 H & H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 RUM, 303 Brit,
8mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, 340 Weatherby Mag, 338 RUM, 375 H & H, 375 Weatherby,
375 RUM, 416 Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag, and the 458 Lott.
Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .585 +/-
30/378 Weatherby, 338 Lapua, 338/378 Weatherby, 378 Weatherby mag, 416 Rigby,
416 Weatherby Mag, 460 Weatherby Mag, and the 470 Nitro Express
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 02:01 PM
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again that's the wrong question to ask...... its not an either or question' the measurement is .473 standard bolt face nothing magnum about a measurement...
a question worth asking is should you build a .284 on a short action or long....
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 02:08 PM
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again that's the wrong question to ask...... its not an either or question' the measurement is .473 standard bolt face nothing magnum about a measurement...
a question worth asking is should you build a .284 on a short action or long.... Correct, We typically do long actions for the .284/ 6.5-284
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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You assume I haven't already decided which action I prefer or if I care at all.
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 05:02 PM
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By the way that is a yes or no question.
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 05:43 PM
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Will a .308 bolt face work for a .284 case or should I use a magnum bolt face? Yes. It would be called a 7mm-08 in a short action. It would be called a 284 Win or 280 Rem in a long action. It would be called a 7 Rem Mag on a long action, magnum bolt face (.540") All will push the same exact bullet. You pick the bullet, you decide how fast you want it to go, you decide how much recoil you're willing to tolerate. That what you were looking for?
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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Yes it is. Thanks. Where can I find info on bolt face sizes?
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GOOGLE it takes like 2 seconds......... which was my point in my first post......
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 08:13 PM
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Yes it is. Thanks. Where can I find info on bolt face sizes? jbd76266 gave that to you in the post above.
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 08:20 PM
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284 Winchester uses the same bolt face as a host of cartridges 22-250, 308 Winchester, 30-06..... Most rifles in the past for the 284 Winchester are on short actions like used for the 308. These days most custom guns for it are long action so the bullet may be seated out further to take up less powder room. SAAMI specs for US cartridges can be found at http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/index.cfm
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01/13/15 09:47 PM
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What are you planning on shooting. I went against the grain and built a 284 on a short action. 162 Amax netted me 2900 out of a 26" barrel. So it can be done effectively.
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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01/13/15 10:14 PM
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What are you planning on shooting. I went against the grain and built a 284 on a short action. 162 Amax netted me 2900 out of a 26" barrel. So it can be done effectively.
Walter  I am mechanically opposed to long actions...... 
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What are you planning on shooting. I went against the grain and built a 284 on a short action. 162 Amax netted me 2900 out of a 26" barrel. So it can be done effectively.
Walter I am mechanically opposed to long actions......  Walter
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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What are you planning on shooting. I went against the grain and built a 284 on a short action. 162 Amax netted me 2900 out of a 26" barrel. So it can be done effectively.
Walter I am mechanically opposed to long actions...... Shoot I'm not! I like having a bigger case I can put a compressed load in. I got the .2 extra second to cycle it.
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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I am leaning more and more toward the short action, especially since the WSM cartridges came out.
For a 284 though, I would go with the long action for the reason FiremanJG mentions above.
Kind regards, charlesb
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01/14/15 02:29 AM
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2900fps in a short action platform is outstanding. once you cross the 2800fps w/ the 162 is all gravy, sure a 7mag is faster but you've already gained the majority of the bullets ballistic advantage. And since I make it a point not to own a long action....... the extra 50-75fps you could get with the .284 long action its a waste of time and space.... you have to jump to 3100fps to get any significant advantage over what WBurke is doing with his short action... Cheers and congrats on taking down the long action .284
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Re: Bolt Face Question
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It's all just a question of what you're willing to give up for what. Cheers and congrats? Sure...on making up your own mind to satisfy yourself, all dogma aside.
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01/14/15 03:10 AM
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I don't have that rifle anymore but I got most of my data from a guy of snipershide that built one right before me and he was getting the same thing. But I agree the 284 works just as good in a short action as a long.
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