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#5534448 - 01/11/15 10:21 AM Antler less - Law Clarification
shea.mcphail Offline
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Registered: 11/27/14
Posts: 215
Loc: Mesquite/Canton
First - I understand that deer season has ended. I'm trying to get some clarification on antler less deer hunting. My family has private land in Canton (Van Zandt county) that my BIL has hunted for a few years now. I've gone with him only a couple times for deer hunting. Usually I go for hogs and coyotes. So back to my question (since I have limited experience with deer hunting). Can I only fulfill my antler less tags right after Thanksgiving? Van Zandt only allows me to kill four deer (instead of the full five). Plus they have antler restrictions. So does this sound right:
1 buck with greater than 13 inch spread
1 buck (spike I assume?)
2 antler less - only during the Thanksgiving time period which is like four or five days?

That's a short time period to get two antler less. Am I missing something?

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#5534480 - 01/11/15 10:35 AM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
Ketchn Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
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I don't know about the entire regs on that county ...but
a spike on JUST one side qualifies as a spike as well I am pretty sure

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#5534799 - 01/11/15 12:28 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
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Not missing anything. If you want more time to kill doe's then hunt archery.

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#5535089 - 01/11/15 01:31 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
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Spike is no branched antlers.
Single unbranched antler for antler restricted counties is different.
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#5535107 - 01/11/15 01:35 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)
Spike is no branched antlers.
Single unbranched antler for antler restricted counties is different.


This....not familiar with the county regs in the OP, but for counties with extended season spike/doe, a spike is no branched antlers not just one unbranched.
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#5535122 - 01/11/15 01:39 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
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1 buck 13" or better.
1 buck with at least one unbranched antler. can be a spike or unbranched on one side.
2 anterless all seasons combined, archery season and or Nov 27 -30.

Unbranched antler = at least one antler having no more than one point, other antler can have any amount of points.
Spike = is defined as a buck with no antler having more than one point.

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#5535131 - 01/11/15 01:43 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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Registered: 11/27/14
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Loc: Mesquite/Canton
Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)
Spike is no branched antlers.
Single unbranched antler for antler restricted counties is different.

So for my two bucks I could have one that has the 13 inch spread and one buck that is either a spike OR has just one unbranched antler?

I've never done archery, but that sounds like my best opportunity to meet my antler less tags.

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#5535167 - 01/11/15 01:57 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
Sniper John Offline

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Loc: North Texas
Yep. Just like it reads.

Bag Limit 4 deer, no more than 2 bucks, and no more than 2 antlerless, all seasons combined.
Antler Restrictions Antler Restrictions do not apply on properties for which Level 2 or Level 3 MLDPs have been issued. For the seasons listed above, a legal buck is a buck deer having at least one unbranched antler, or an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. The inside spread requirement does not apply to any buck that has an unbranched antler. Not more than one buck with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater may be taken.

Antlerless Deer If permits have been issued for the harvest of antlerless deer, they must be attached to all antlerless deer harvested on the tract of land. On USFS, Corps of Engineers, and river authority lands for the seasons listed above, the take of antlerless deer shall be by permit only. On all other tracts of land in this county, antlerless deer may be taken without permits from Thanksgiving Day through the Sunday immediately following Thanksgiving Day, Nov. 27-30. At all other times November 1-26 and December 1 – January 4, antlerless deer may be taken by antlerless MLD permit or LAMPS permit only. On tracts of land for which LAMPS permits have been issued, no LAMPS permit is required for the harvest of antlerless deer during the archery-only or muzzleloader-only open season.

Archery Only Sept. 27 - Oct. 31, 2014
Archery Only Either sex. No permit is required to hunt antlerless deer unless MLDP permits have been issued for the property.

General Season Nov. 1, 2014 - Jan. 4, 2015

Youth-Only
Early Youth-Only Season Oct. 25 - 26, 2014
Late Youth-Only Season Jan. 5 - 18, 2015
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#5535791 - 01/11/15 04:10 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
Russ79 Offline
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Registered: 12/04/09
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Loc: Nacogdoches, Tx
An anterless deer is a doe, but a nubbin' buck where there is no hardened antler protruding thru the skin is considered antlerless. Many counties regulate the period for doe harvest. For instance, in Nacogdoches county we can only kill does during general season until the Sunday before Thanksgiving.

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#5535817 - 01/11/15 04:19 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
elkaholic Offline
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Loc: East Texas
I live and hunt around Canton and our season just ended. Youth season runs until the 18th, I think. It is a 2 buck/2 doe county.... (1) 13 inch or greater and the other at least (1) unbranched antler. Antlerless is the 4 days during Thanksgiving. That is for rifle.... Archery will get you a little more time on the front end and open up antlerless for you during the season.
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#5535943 - 01/11/15 05:10 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
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Originally Posted By: elkaholic
I live and hunt around Canton and our season just ended. Youth season runs until the 18th, I think. It is a 2 buck/2 doe county.... (1) 13 inch or greater and the other at least (1) unbranched antler. Antlerless is the 4 days during Thanksgiving. That is for rifle.... Archery will get you a little more time on the front end and open up antlerless for you during the season.


Wrong. re read the county regulations.
During the general season killing antlerless is by lamps or mld permits only except for Nov 27 - 30.
Using archery equipment during the general season makes no difference in what you can legally kill.

" Antlerless Deer If permits have been issued for the harvest of antlerless deer, they must be attached to all antlerless deer harvested on the tract of land. On USFS, Corps of Engineers, and river authority lands for the seasons listed above, the take of antlerless deer shall be by permit only. On all other tracts of land in this county, antlerless deer may be taken without permits from Thanksgiving Day through the Sunday immediately following Thanksgiving Day, Nov. 27-30. At all other times November 1-26 and December 1 – January 4, antlerless deer may be taken by antlerless MLD permit or LAMPS permit only. On tracts of land for which LAMPS permits have been issued, no LAMPS permit is required for the harvest of antlerless deer during the archery-only or muzzleloader-only open season."

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#5536549 - 01/11/15 09:11 PM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
shea.mcphail Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 11/27/14
Posts: 215
Loc: Mesquite/Canton
Looks like I'll have to pick up on archery. Guess I gotta do what I gotta do! grin

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#5539720 - 01/13/15 08:43 AM Re: Antler less - Law Clarification [Re: shea.mcphail]
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Registered: 07/13/09
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Loc: Franklin, Tx Hunt in Panola ...
Originally Posted By: shea.mcphail
So for my two bucks I could have one that has the 13 inch spread and one buck that is either a spike OR has just one unbranched antler?

OR, you could just kill 2 bucks that have one un-branched antler and not a buck 13" or greater.

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