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#5530258 - 01/09/15 12:22 PM Papers - real or fake
AGGIEHUNTER97 Offline
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When a buying a dog from an individual, how do you know if you are really getting what you pay for. I have heard of people (believe it or not) that lie and forge the paper work of their dogs. I have been looking on different websites at labs for sale. I am only looking at this point, but will be in the market to buy one in the next few months. I have seen several individual sellers that have the same price or close to the same as breeders. Yet others are much cheaper. How do I verify their papers?
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#5530274 - 01/09/15 12:31 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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I think that you would be more likely to get fake papers from a breeder, but the overall fish is small.
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#5530296 - 01/09/15 12:44 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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I have seen several individual sellers that have the same price or close to the same as breeders. Yet others are much cheaper.

Price has a lot to do with bloodlines, titles, and health clearances.
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#5530328 - 01/09/15 12:53 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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Dna dog and have American field or registering organization verify parents.
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#5530342 - 01/09/15 12:58 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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Go with a reputable breeder and you won't have to worry about it.
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#5530387 - 01/09/15 01:17 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: iliketohunt]
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Originally Posted By: iliketohunt
Go with a reputable breeder and you won't have to worry about it.
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#5530397 - 01/09/15 01:23 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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Reputable dog breeders are like reputable used car salesman. They do exist but all have unhappy customers.
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#5530409 - 01/09/15 01:30 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: iliketohunt]
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Originally Posted By: iliketohunt
Go with a reputable breeder and you won't have to worry about it.


Ever heard of Ferel Miller?
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#5530470 - 01/09/15 01:48 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: bill oxner]
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Nope.

But to anyone that disputes my statement I guarantee you will have a much better chance of knowing what you are getting by asking on forums for reputable breeders or better yet going to trials/tests and meeting them yourself than you do my randomly searching websites.
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#5530490 - 01/09/15 02:01 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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My advice is to go to hunt test or other similar event. You will meet tons of people, amateurs and professionals. More importantly, you will be able to see dogs run and handlers handle which will help you decide what you do and don't want. You will get WAY more info in one afternoon than hours of scouring the web (dog people aren't necessarily tech people).

entryexpress is a good way to find events.

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#5530508 - 01/09/15 02:10 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: kruzie96]
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Originally Posted By: kruzie96
My advice is to go to hunt test or other similar event. You will meet tons of people, amateurs and professionals. More importantly, you will be able to see dogs run and handlers handle which will help you decide what you do and don't want. You will get WAY more info in one afternoon than hours of scouring the web (dog people aren't necessarily tech people).

entryexpress is a good way to find events.

My $0.02 and probably not worth that smile


Bingo!
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#5530598 - 01/09/15 02:45 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
AGGIEHUNTER97 Offline
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Thanks for info, I'm looking up events now.
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#5530752 - 01/09/15 03:35 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: iliketohunt
Go with a reputable breeder and you won't have to worry about it.


Ever heard of Ferel Miller?
roflmao In your words Bill..... Bingo!
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#5530767 - 01/09/15 03:43 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: AGGIEHUNTER97]
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I thought everyone that owned pointers knew about Mr Miller.
He sure caused a lot of people, a lot of headaches, but did put out some exceptional dogs.
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#5530868 - 01/09/15 04:21 PM Re: Papers - real or fake [Re: kindall]
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Are you alluding to me?
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