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#5529438 - 01/09/15 05:59 AM .270 Winchester or .270 WSM
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I am curious what yall have to say about these 2 rounds for here in Texas. Trying to fill a gap between rifles. I never shot a .270 or the .270WSM but loo[b][/b]king at some ballistics the .270WSM looks to edge out the .270 just a little. I could be wrong I am just trying to understand what I read and exactly what are the short magnums for.

The gap is .22-250, .243, ? .30-06, .300wm, .30-.338.

I was also wondering which one would have the most recoil and what it might equal to.

Thank you
Steve


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#5529456 - 01/09/15 06:11 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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The .270 WCF (WCF = Winchester Center Fire, the full name of the cartridge) is a fine cartridge for all Texas whitetail, mule deer, and antelope hunting. I'm not sure why the WSM was introduced or needed, although I'm sure someone will step in and defend it.

Recoil for the 130 grain bullet in an 8 pound rifle (a standard weight rifle with scope will add up to about 8.3 pounds) is 16.5 fp for the .270 WCF and 18.7 fp for the WSM. By way of comparison, the .30-06 with 150 grain bullet in the same weight rifle is 17.6 fp.
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#5529480 - 01/09/15 06:51 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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I own both and they are great for anything you listed. The WSM does have an edge but the 270 is a lot easier to find ammo for. Flip a coin.

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#5529498 - 01/09/15 07:01 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: headhunter54]
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Originally Posted By: headhunter54
I own both and they are great for anything you listed. The WSM does have an edge but the 270 is a lot easier to find ammo for. Flip a coin.


Most likely cheaper too.
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#5529500 - 01/09/15 07:04 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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Agree flip a coin.

Find a rifle you like, if it is a short action WSM for a long action WCF. A deer or hog will never know the difference.
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#5529554 - 01/09/15 07:33 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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The WSMs were primarily introduced to have long action performance in a short action rifle to lessen weight. It was just a happy coincidence that the cartridge configuration gave the .270 WSM a little added performance over the .270 Win.
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#5529561 - 01/09/15 07:39 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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Originally Posted By: USMCatfish
I am curious what yall have to say about these 2 rounds for here in Texas. Trying to fill a gap between rifles. I never shot a .270 or the .270WSM but loo[b][/b]king at some ballistics the .270WSM looks to edge out the .270 just a little. I could be wrong I am just trying to understand what I read and exactly what are the short magnums for.

The gap is .22-250, .243, ? .30-06, .300wm, .30-.338.

I was also wondering which one would have the most recoil and what it might equal to.

Thank you
Steve


270 wsm has more recoil but it touch hotter also.

Can't go wrong with either. Stxranchman go to rifle his a 270.

257wby is very similar to the 270

Your gap is .25, 26, and .27
260/6.5 creed, (7-08 similar ballistics but 7mm)
25-06, 257wby
270, 270wsm




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#5529576 - 01/09/15 07:48 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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For me it's the .270 because I've standardized my house on it. Both myself and 2 sons own and hunt with the .270 with all 3 rifles sighted in on Remington 130gr Core Lokt's which can be found anywhere ammunition is sold and I buy more of the green and yellow boxes whenever it's on sale.

Either will work, but the .270 will be a bit less on recoil. Either will take any game in Texas. Only the .270 though can be found wherever you find ammunition.
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#5529595 - 01/09/15 07:56 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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In my opinion with a 30-06 in the lineup neither a 270 or 270 wsm fill a gap.

Are you about the lattest thing and get caught up on numbers? If so the WSM is for you. If you want a good gun that works is reliable ammo has and will always be available in factory loadings and is cheaper to shoot you want a 270 WCF.
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#5529606 - 01/09/15 08:01 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: Earl]
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What will you be using the rifle for? Given that you already have a 30-06, your "gap' is actually quite narrow as far as practicality. The 270 Win isn't going to give you anything you don't already have the -06.

If you're just itching for a new toy, get something with some wow factor like the WSM shooting 110 grain TTSX.

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#5529607 - 01/09/15 08:01 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
The WSMs were primarily introduced to have long action performance in a short action rifle to lessen weight. It was just a happy coincidence that the cartridge configuration gave the .270 WSM a little added performance over the .270 Win.


Of all the BS that gun writers have put out through the decades, the worst is the idea that we need short actions so rifles can be built lighter. It's BS because 1) you can build a light rifle with a long action, 2) the vast, vast, majority of hunters aren't lugging their rifles around at port arms for long periods (and, in fact, in Texas, most of us are sitting in a blind with the rifle propped against the wall (and we got to the blind after a tiring 1/4 mile walk)), 3) if weight is such a concern, how hard is it to lose a couple of pounds of your own weight since most of us are way over weight?
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#5529610 - 01/09/15 08:03 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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And as for short actions being more "handy", we're talking about 1/2" difference. When I was young I bought into all that and all my early rifles were short action. When I finally did buy a long action rifle, I didn't even notice the difference.
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#5529643 - 01/09/15 08:20 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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Why all the hate? I'm not trying to start an argument.

I have both. I love my Nosler .270 WSM. 7 1/4 lbs all-in, a short stroke action, and 100-150 FPS advantage over the .270 Win. Those are all real-world advantages over my Sako .270 Win. Especially on a tough backpack hunt.

That said, I love my Sako too. So much so I just took it on the most important hunt of my life. The conditions were such that I was willing to tote the extra weight-and I just wanted my old friend of 35 years in my hands when the time came to shoot.

If I was not seeking a specialty mountain rifle, I would pick the .270 Win. over the WSM-primarily for ammo availability as mentioned above. But I sure ain't going to rag on anyone who wants the added performance and the short action of the .270 WSM.
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#5529652 - 01/09/15 08:22 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: USMCatfish]
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I'm not hating on ya. These are just thoughts I've had rattling around in my head lately and I decided this thread was a good place to get them out.
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#5529658 - 01/09/15 08:24 AM Re: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
I'm not hating on ya. These are just thoughts I've had rattling around in my head lately and I decided this thread was a good place to get them out.

That's about like kicking the dog when you get home from a bad day at work. scared grin

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