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#5520579 - 01/04/15 10:10 PM Hunting pen raise birds?
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From what I understand you can shoot pen raised birds year round, but do you need any special permit to raise your own birds to hunt. Im not looking to sell any hunts but just want to buy and release birds for my dog to train.

I figured you might need something for the game warden if I get stopped with 10 dead birds in june

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#5520885 - 01/05/15 08:01 AM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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You need to get a Private Hunting Area license from TPW. I had one for a few years.
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#5522737 - 01/05/15 10:52 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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You also need to get the Game Bird Breeders License
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#5522776 - 01/05/15 11:38 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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what if you buy some, and then release them on public land and shoot them? Any licensing for that, above and beyond the normal APH permit with TPWD? I'm in the same situation, looking at training a youngen....


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#5523044 - 01/06/15 07:56 AM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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I think you can shoot them during season.
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#5523292 - 01/06/15 09:45 AM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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The difference between hunting pen raised and wild birds is knowing.

Pen Raised Birds is an easter egg hunt, you know how many there are and you try to find them all. It is more fun if someone else puts the birds out and you do not know where they are. This way your dog and you are truly using skill to find the birds. I like to hunt game preserves on Monday. Can not tell you how many pick up birds you get if you have a good dog. I think this year I have had over 300 pick up birds. Last year I had over a 2000. (About 1/4 the hunting this year versus last...)

Hunting wilds birds is a crap shoot, you really have no idea what you will find and how well your dog is doing. You may know where the birds are or are suppose to be but have no idea of how many. You also have no idea of how many birds your dog found versus walked by. I hunt mostly preserves because I like putting on a good show and lets face it Central Texas is not bird friendly. When I hunted Kansas and Colorado this year my little dog destroyed the "Professional Wild Bird Dogs" because a quail smells like a quail and a pheasant smells like a pheasant and like anything more practice more success. My buddies dogs (Guide Dogs) maybe point 400-500 pheasants a year, most more like 50. My little dog may point 50 or more pheasants in a day on a preserve.

If this were South Dakota or a northern state with lots of open hunting land my answer would be very different. Also if you travel to hunt in the northern states my answer would be different. In Texas you either have to have your own land and work hard to maintain it or you hunt preserves. Just my opinion...

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#5523560 - 01/06/15 12:07 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: Just Nate]
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Someone didn't read the question.
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#5523599 - 01/06/15 12:31 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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Buying them is much easier but if you want to buy a lot at one time youll need a good DRY and CLEAN flypen with a well thought out catch run. clean water, fresh feed etc. They are very touchy birds and if it gets to wet or filthy one can get sick and ruin most of the pen. You will need bands to record and identify your birds. this is how its able to be done during season. A good native field will be needed also hay pasture sucks and there is an art to putting them out without them taking off when released.
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#5523602 - 01/06/15 12:31 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: DoveMaster]
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Natty Love

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Originally Posted By: DoveMaster
what if you buy some, and then release them on public land and shoot them? Any licensing for that, above and beyond the normal APH permit with TPWD? I'm in the same situation, looking at training a youngen....



Now this im not sure of id talk with a Warden
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#5523643 - 01/06/15 12:56 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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You can do it in public with no licensing but it must be in season and within bag limits.
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#5523680 - 01/06/15 01:14 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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We spoke with our warden about this last year. He said that the birds have to all be banded, we had to have a letter from the raiser, and we had to notify him when we were doing the hunt. And pray that we don't accidentally shoot a wild bird.
Definitely call your warden. They all seem to make up their rules.
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#5523747 - 01/06/15 01:56 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: Simple Searcher]
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Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
We spoke with our warden about this last year. He said that the birds have to all be banded, we had to have a letter from the raiser, and we had to notify him when we were doing the hunt. And pray that we don't accidentally shoot a wild bird.
Definitely call your warden. They all seem to make up their rules.



You must be talking about out of season.
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#5524164 - 01/06/15 05:59 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: iliketohunt]
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Originally Posted By: iliketohunt
Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
We spoke with our warden about this last year. He said that the birds have to all be banded, we had to have a letter from the raiser, and we had to notify him when we were doing the hunt. And pray that we don't accidentally shoot a wild bird.
Definitely call your warden. They all seem to make up their rules.



You must be talking about out of season.


Yes, it was just after quail season
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#5524567 - 01/06/15 08:50 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: epp838]
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Texas Pen Raised Bird Hunting Rules

That link is what you need to know...

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#5524669 - 01/06/15 09:28 PM Re: Hunting pen raise birds? [Re: Just Nate]
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Originally Posted By: Nathan Nelson
Texas Pen Raised Bird Hunting Rules

That link is what you need to know...


Thanks for the link
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