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#5516172 - 01/02/15 07:20 PM Vortex reliability
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my VIPER 4-16 PST is fine, so no problems there. But, I was on another forum this morning and read how this particular member (very knowledgable, from what I can tell) had bought and used a lot of Vortex scopes and pretty much all had been bad - especially the PST's. None of you guys have trashed Vortex too much, and some of you are experienced long range guys. Do any of you have personal knowledge of Vortex PST or Razor scopes breaking down a little or a lot.

I'm not taking mine off the gun, I just wanted to see if this other guy just has Vortex hatred or if he has real world data.

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#5516255 - 01/02/15 07:59 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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My Viper PST has had some bumps, but not bad. No loss of zero or change in tracking.

Dave had a Gen I Razor that was on his match gun (several barrels) and to my knowledge never had any trouble.

That's all I got.
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#5516313 - 01/02/15 08:30 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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I had one for about a year. It had been rock solid till I got to Rocky Mountain 3 Gun last summer. It worked great for two days of the match and on the third, I was suddenly hitting about 20MOA high. I went to the sight-in range and moved it down. Next stage, same thing. I used a different rifle to finish the match. When I got home, I adjusted it again, carried it in the pickup, banged the forearm of the rifle into a tree, banged the stock into the ground. It held. Went to Fallen Brethren 3 gun this fall, and it works fine. I figured someone turned the knob on it at RM3G. Then, I went to a local 3 gun match last month, and shooting the same load, I was hitting 8 inches low at 50 yards. I should have been 6 inches high at that distance. I pulled it off and sent it for warranty. Two weeks later it returned with a note saying, "Checked scope, and all functions are normal." Apparently that is normal behavior for a Viper PST 1-4. Not happy.
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#5516398 - 01/02/15 09:09 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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This week, my 5-20 Razor is going back to Vortex for the third time. First time was for tracking issues, second time my reticle came loose and would spin when turning up or down the magnification, and this time it's going back for not holding a zero and tracking issues. Each time they have fixed this scope until it broke again. We will see what they say this time. This a very early Razor, and I hope they will consider replacing it. Three times for issues is enough to burn anyone.

It would be nice to find a scope that doesn't break, but I'm not sure such a scope exists.

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#5516428 - 01/02/15 09:24 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Have almost abused my SS 5-20 HD, and have not had a single failure.
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#5516801 - 01/03/15 06:54 AM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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I started looking at the Vortex as well, after speaking with Jason. I have read some of what y'all posted on several forums while looking for Product reviews. Enough to make me hold off a bit. From what I have read, you either have a great scope, or not, also have read that the glass can be inconsistent, but assume that may have something to do with an individuals vision. I really like their EBR- 2c reticle

I know they are priced close in with a few models of Ziess and Swaro.
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#5516806 - 01/03/15 07:00 AM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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I've got a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44 on the brown truck that will be here Monday. I am actually moving a Minox 3-9x40 over to the kids' 10/22 from my AR and replacing with the Vortex. While this worries me a little, they do have a great warranty. I guess we'll just have to see.
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#5517243 - 01/03/15 12:28 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: kry226]
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Originally Posted By: kry226
I've got a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44 on the brown truck that will be here Monday. I am actually moving a Minox 3-9x40 over to the kids' 10/22 from my AR and replacing with the Vortex. While this worries me a little, they do have a great warranty. I guess we'll just have to see.


I have read that their warranty is hard to beat!
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#5517734 - 01/03/15 06:32 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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If you look at the big picture only a couple to a very few really push the vortex real hard. If you ever leave this place and read around there is for sure a different opinion of vortex. Certain models have a lot of features but to me glass is lacking and they aren't a deal they once were now that others have also improved.
Just an opinion

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#5517849 - 01/03/15 07:43 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: Brother in-law]
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Those other opinions. Do they shoot distance with Razors or PSTs?
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#5517886 - 01/03/15 08:04 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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I have owned 3 and 2 of them sucked. The first one I bought, a vortex viper HS, the very first shot with a .243 and the crosshair turned on me. I took it back and got a refund. About a year later I bought another vortex viper HS and it was good. I just wanted to upgrade. The last one was a vortex viper PST I never could get it sighted in. After a hour and half I took it back to the store and bought a nightforce. Best decision I have made. Too bad it got stolen from me.
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#5517888 - 01/03/15 08:06 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: Western]
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Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: kry226
I've got a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44 on the brown truck that will be here Monday. I am actually moving a Minox 3-9x40 over to the kids' 10/22 from my AR and replacing with the Vortex. While this worries me a little, they do have a great warranty. I guess we'll just have to see.


I have read that their warranty is hard to beat!


Yep everyone seems to know about about their great warrenty. I wonder why?
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#5517896 - 01/03/15 08:13 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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Well, let's say a fellow wants a lightweight, turreted, 30mm tube scope with a good shooting mil reticle, good glass, and reticle illumination for the best available price, where should that fellow put his money? At the $1k price point, options are few. Vortex looked to me to be the best option, and I really wanted to see what I'd get with Vortex, so I got the Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP. So, what did I get?

Glass - good, and not noticeably worse than what's in my Leupold VX3's
Turrets- good, not too tall, nice click force needed, not quite zero stop, but acceptable
Reticle - I like it fine
Weight - it is rather light
Hunting use - plenty of coyotes down, maybe 6 deer so far, and a few pigs. I keep it on 8 power, and when the critter of the moment comes into view, the gun and scope come up and I am instantly in full view of the critter. No hunt for a sight picture is required. Reticle is visible in very dim light, without the illumination.

I haven't done a whole lot of turret cranking yet, and if that's the weak spot, then I'll get to it soon.
I like the scope. Do I need to spend 2.5 times the money for a NF? I don't feel the need. When and if the scope ever breaks, I might possibly be less pleased with it. :-)

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#5517919 - 01/03/15 08:21 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: caddokiller]
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Originally Posted By: caddokiller
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: kry226
I've got a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44 on the brown truck that will be here Monday. I am actually moving a Minox 3-9x40 over to the kids' 10/22 from my AR and replacing with the Vortex. While this worries me a little, they do have a great warranty. I guess we'll just have to see.


I have read that their warranty is hard to beat!


Yep everyone seems to know about about their great warrenty. I wonder why?


I've got 2 pairs of bino's, 2 SS, and three scopes. I've used the warranty once on a scope. I was an idiot and dropped a rifle and bent scope. New scope with in a week.

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#5517934 - 01/03/15 08:27 PM Re: Vortex reliability [Re: 603Country]
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Running pst on my 300 win mag no issues so far! Held zero and im hard on my stuff
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