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#5515542 - 01/02/15 01:54 PM Help me pick a cartridge
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Looking into building a rifle and wanted some suggestions on what to go with. I will be using it for whitetail and range plinking out to 1K yards. Listed below is what I already have, I would like to keep from doubling up or getting into hard to find components. I do reload so ammo isn't an issue so long as I can find the brass.

.243
.260
6.5 creed
.280 ackley
.308
7-300WM
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#5515548 - 01/02/15 01:57 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Well heck. All the cartridges you have will already do what you mentioned.

So to pick something new I gotta go with a 1:9" twist 7mm-08 with 162 A-maxes (when you can get them again) or 168 Berger VLDs.
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#5515570 - 01/02/15 02:09 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 10/15/14
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Loc: Blanco texas
Damn I would just buy components and go shoot. I agree with Fireman JG...got most of it covered. If you got to get something, 338 ultra, lapua, or edge...

I'd just shoot what you got, and get some trigger time behind them...

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#5515576 - 01/02/15 02:11 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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That is a pretty good list already I would go with something big for shooting a long ways like the 338 edge or the like.

Walter

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#5515592 - 01/02/15 02:16 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: wburke2010]
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He said 1k, but a big boomer like a 338 LM is on my "want" list. But I won't shoot it inside 1k very often. That's a waste of components for me. And west Texas is the only place I could stretch its legs. Still want one though.

P & Y,

you already have one 6mm, and two 6.5's. Could get another 6mm, like a 6mm Creedmoor, or 6 x 47.
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#5515609 - 01/02/15 02:21 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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#5515613 - 01/02/15 02:25 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I haven't looked at the .338 at all, maybe it's time that I do. I have always preferred to shoot mild rounds as far as recoil is concerned. I really want something that is fun to sit behind at the range. I need to look at the 6x47 too, not familiar with it.
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#5515631 - 01/02/15 02:37 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Registered: 06/10/14
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Loc: DFW
1) grab the 7-300WM

2) Acquire 180 VLD's

3) Push said 180 VLD's to ~3050-3100 fps

That vs a .300 WM running the 230 hybrid at ~2900 at 1K (units: fps, ftlbs, in, in, sec):

7-300
Velocity: 1813
Energy: 1314
Elevation: -228.85
Windage: 26.56
Time: 1.26

300
Velocity: 1785
Energy: 1628
Elevation: -252.84
Windage: 25.33
Time: 1.32

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#5515647 - 01/02/15 02:47 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I actually had two loads worked up for it. The first was the 168gr VLD and the other was the 180gr Hybrid.
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#5515653 - 01/02/15 02:51 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Registered: 06/10/14
Posts: 314
Loc: DFW
The benefit of the 180 VLD is that is the best BC I'm aware of on a Hunting bullet (EDIT -- not counting calibers over .30) -- JG has had a TON of success with them for that purpose -- and there would be no need to ever change zero when you change purposes.

How fast are you running the 180 Hybrid? What didn't you like about it?


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#5515660 - 01/02/15 02:54 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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If you want fun---none of the 338 are fun...my ulltra and Lapua are all biz...they are loud and eat powder by the pound. They are heavy duty ground pounding killing machines.

Your 243,creedmoor, or 280 ack will be a lot more fun, kick less, and be a lot easier on your pocket book...

Ed

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#5515670 - 01/02/15 02:58 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I'm not working the loads up myself. The gunsmith that built the rifle is working up both loads right now. The rifle is throated to run the 180 VLDs but since I am a novice reloader the hybrids seemed like a better fit. From what I understand the hybrids are not near as sensitive to seating depth. I was under the impression the hybrid had a higher BC than the VLD though. Now you have me wondering....
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#5515693 - 01/02/15 03:10 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Nope the hybrid wins. The 195 berger has been working on is said to have a bc in the .79 area.
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#5515722 - 01/02/15 03:27 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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22-243, 22Creedmoor or 224TTH. Get a 1:7 or 1:8 twist barrel and have fun. Any of those can take care of deer out to 500 without a problem with the right bullet and are still supersonic past 1K.
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#5515738 - 01/02/15 03:36 PM Re: Help me pick a cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I haven't ruled out the 22 creed! Been thinking about this one for a few weeks
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