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#5511026 - 12/31/14 03:33 PM New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train?
DoveMaster Offline
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New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train?

He is 3M old... I'm starting with basic Sit command now, but that's it so far... Would like to know if anyone recommends a certain DVD or Book that can be used to train basic commands well, and then a source for training him to hunt duck/quail/dove?

Any help greatly appreciated!

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#5511036 - 12/31/14 03:37 PM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: DoveMaster]
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You should not teach a pointing dog to sit.
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#5511076 - 12/31/14 04:02 PM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: DoveMaster]
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really asking for a good DVD or book source that many on the forum have used with success, on training basic commands, sit, stay, come, heel, as well as a recommended source for hunting purposes...

I plan to hunt ducks, dove, and quail, so a little bit of everything, for this dog. Any advice greatly appreciated.


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#5511352 - 12/31/14 06:15 PM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
You should not teach a pointing dog to sit.
Or here in my opinion.
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#5511897 - 12/31/14 09:01 PM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: bill oxner]
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I'm new here, just curious why don't you teach them to sit?

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#5511906 - 12/31/14 09:07 PM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: DoveMaster]
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Do Brittany's usually swim?

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#5512425 - 01/01/15 07:40 AM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: epp838]
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Originally Posted By: epp838
I'm new here, just curious why don't you teach them to sit?


It's an old argument. I've never been strong on either side of the argument. I was simply trying to keep the thread alive. The theory is that the pup learns to sit under pressure, and will sit when it's commanded to whoa.

We have a pond behind my house. A neighbor had a national champion AA Brittany that would swim for hours in there. She'd get lost on a field trial and be found swimming in a pond.
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#5512443 - 01/01/15 07:59 AM Re: New Brittany Pup, What DVD or Book recommended to Train? [Re: DoveMaster]
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Here's my step by step breaking process. You have to have birds and a little piece of land.

I've had a few PMs asking about my training method. I did this on another forum, so I still have the pictures in my album, so here goes;

All bird dogs point. The breaking process teaches them to hold point. There are two ways to teach a dog to hold point, with dozens of variations. The first way is to let the birds train the pups. That generally involves launchers and pigeons, with some whoa breaking mixed in. It's very effective. I use the Delmar Smith method, substituting the e-collar for the bump under the chin. My dogs are completely whoa broke before I put them on birds. I use pen raised quail, because I can be done with them for the summer. I like to start in August, and finish in time for hunting season.

I start off on the whoa post. I introduce the e-collar the same day, that I introduce the whoa post. Here's cracker on her first day with the whoa post;



I keep them on the whoa post only until I can get out in front of them, and then go to the yard for heel and whoa. Cracker tended to sit, so I had to start with the suitcase hitch. I go from the yard to longer walks. The pup has pretty well gotten it down after three weeks.



I then go from the walks to whoa in the field. Here's Cracker in the field in the field, before I put her on birds. This whole process has taken me around four weeks.



This is her first day on birds. I train alone, so I had to plant the bird, where I could wrap the CC around a bush. Notice the slack CC.



I kept her on the CC for three training days. She only went around on the bird one time. Here she is after 9 training flushes.




I started walking some of the birds out after a few days. Here you go;




A little side note. My birds were not recalling all that well, so I used Cookie to point them while I netted them;



A lot depends on the pup, and you have to adjust for each pup. Cracker has never taken out a single pointed bird or covey.
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