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#5507462 - 12/29/14 08:43 PM Lease Pricing
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I was talking with a couple friends of mine today and we had an interesting conversation about lease pricing. We were discussing the different prices we would pay per gun for a lease that had the potential for certain size deer. Thought it would be interesting to see what others thought. Basically talking about what we would pay for a quality place with potential at an X size deer. Of course everyone knows you aren't guaranteed anything at anytime.

The scenario is a lease 2 hours from your house, low fence, ranch house lodging, feeders and blinds provided, 400-500 acres per gun, year round all game.

What would you pay for below? Or what do you think market rate would be...

120 Type B&C Potential - X $ Per Gun

140 Type Potential -

150-160+ Type Potential -

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#5507520 - 12/29/14 09:09 PM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
stxranchman Offline
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I will trade a certain fella a really nice spotted Bobcat for a 150-160+ spot on a lease bolt
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#5507582 - 12/29/14 09:35 PM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: stxranchman]
txbobcat Offline
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
I will trade a certain fella a really nice spotted Bobcat for a 150-160+ spot on a lease bolt


I'm holding out for black panther!

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#5507585 - 12/29/14 09:37 PM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
I will trade a certain fella a really nice spotted Bobcat for a 150-160+ spot on a lease bolt


I'm holding out for black panther!

Okay..how about 2 nice spotted Bobcats for a 150-160+ spot on a lease..... grin
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#5507869 - 12/30/14 12:48 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
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I don't really know just what I would pay. Depends on the exact place. Right now, I'm on a place with about 900 acres to the hunter. House to stay in. Blinds and feeders provided. 120 class deer, no problem. 130-140 attainable with enough time put in. Very low pressure. Great buck to doe ratio. Great overall numbers. $3250 a year. That's more than I ever thought about paying, but I feel like it's a great value.
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#5508016 - 12/30/14 07:11 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
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It's all about deer density and acres per hunter to get big deer consistently. the reason you see so many deer out of south texas is not because the deer are just naturally bigger, it's because there are often ranches that hunt 800-1000 acres per hunter. I did it for a while, but with the kids being small, I just hunt on a small place, and we shoot what they like for the most part.

It's hard to break the "deer management" mindset though, even my ten year old passed 5 bucks last weekend, and ended up shooting a nice 11 point the day after christmas. of course... with my boys being 8 and 10, EVERYTHING they shoot becomes eligible in their eyes for a full body mount. oh well, I didn't think they were cut out for college anyway! banana

but to answer your question, assuming the other lease characteristics were good, I'd pay 2000, 3500, and 5500-7000 respectively.. I'd pay more if the acreage was increased and also depending on what was there... house, walk in cooler, etc.


Edited by kyle1974 (12/30/14 07:14 AM)

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#5508159 - 12/30/14 08:32 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
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Yeah it was an interesting conversation and there are definitely a lot of variables. Mainly just wondering if others/market are in the same range as we were thinking. We're trying to decide on a couple new leases to add to what we currently have.

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#5508161 - 12/30/14 08:33 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: stxranchman]
txbobcat Offline
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
I will trade a certain fella a really nice spotted Bobcat for a 150-160+ spot on a lease bolt


I'm holding out for black panther!

Okay..how about 2 nice spotted Bobcats for a 150-160+ spot on a lease..... grin


That's a heck of a deal. 40 acres high fenced ok?

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#5508214 - 12/30/14 09:00 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
stxranchman Offline
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
I will trade a certain fella a really nice spotted Bobcat for a 150-160+ spot on a lease bolt


I'm holding out for black panther!

Okay..how about 2 nice spotted Bobcats for a 150-160+ spot on a lease..... grin


That's a heck of a deal. 40 acres high fenced ok?

As long as they are not tagged and are wild native deer. I'll spot and stalk only with bow. rolleyes
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#5508231 - 12/30/14 09:06 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
txbobcat Offline
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I'll dart, remove tags, and have them scored before you get here.

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#5508234 - 12/30/14 09:07 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
stxranchman Offline
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Bling is a deal killer for me. The hole from old Bling is still a deal killer. Sorry you will have to come up with another plan for these 2 cats.
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#5508237 - 12/30/14 09:08 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
txbobcat Offline
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Let me get on the phone and order some more in.

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#5508251 - 12/30/14 09:14 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
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I say try not to market what you may or may not get just come up with a reasonable rate based one the going rates in the area. if some one lands a massive buck good for them. don't try and sell 5 people on one picture of a massive buck. I personally would stay away from a place like that.. then again i'm not interested in shooting bucks i'm a meat hunter not trying to stuff anything. so when I look for my lease next year I may spend $2000 but I will not shoot any bucks I will just pay to be able to hunt hogs and culls.
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#5508267 - 12/30/14 09:24 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
stxranchman Offline
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Let me get on the phone and order some more in.

Still be a deal killer. You can't move a deer legally via breeder or TTT without Bling and/or tattoo.
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#5508274 - 12/30/14 09:30 AM Re: Lease Pricing [Re: txbobcat]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
I was talking with a couple friends of mine today and we had an interesting conversation about lease pricing. We were discussing the different prices we would pay per gun for a lease that had the potential for certain size deer. Thought it would be interesting to see what others thought. Basically talking about what we would pay for a quality place with potential at an X size deer. Of course everyone knows you aren't guaranteed anything at anytime.

The scenario is a lease 2 hours from your house, low fence, ranch house lodging, feeders and blinds provided, 400-500 acres per gun, year round all game.

What would you pay for below? Or what do you think market rate would be...

120 Type B&C Potential - X $ Per Gun- $1000-1500

140 Type Potential - $2000-2500

150-160+ Type Potential-$3000 and up to whatever I could stand to pay that year -

For me the biggest drawback on any lease is who is on it and how many are on it. I want to be able to enjoy hunting the place at any time. It is more about the property itself and how it hunts more so than the price paid. What has happened to the land in the past and what is planned for the future is important. Is the lease long term would be another major concern for me.
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