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#5482464 - 12/16/14 09:37 PM B&C Scoring of Captive Deer
FordEvangelist Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/17/08
Posts: 266
Loc: The Colony
The Boone and Crockett Club states that it does not approve of using their scoring system for captive deer:

http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/featured_story.asp?area=news&ID=236

As it should be.

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#5482489 - 12/16/14 09:48 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
Lil Joe Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 06/08/14
Posts: 126
Loc: Willis, Tx
SCI does it i think

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#5482495 - 12/16/14 09:53 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
txshntr Offline
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Registered: 09/24/10
Posts: 35148
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
Not sure why they could just say that the animals couldn't be entered. I think that any club should be able to accept or deny any entry they want to keep in line with their beliefs and history.

Wonder if B&C has a patent or copyright on their scoring system?
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#5482528 - 12/16/14 10:11 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
SheepHunter Offline
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Registered: 12/28/12
Posts: 1784
Loc: East Texas
I have no problem with their stance on free range.

However what I disagree with is when they state:

The Club's records program was established in 1906 as a way of detailing species once thought headed for extinction. Today, the B&C scoring system is used to collect data on free-ranging big game. These data reflect successful conservation efforts, population health and habitat quality. Biologists compare and contrast records to improve local management strategies as well as state and federal wildlife policies.

In my opinion:

Any animal making the B&C record book is that special 1 in a million free range animal. My concerns have always been. How can data collected from such a small portion of a particular species be used to improve management strategies confused2

I believe the B&C minimums are to high to be used as any form of free range management strategy. It is like trying to manage a 4 leaf clover.


O'well you know what they say about opinions.

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#5482784 - 12/17/14 06:48 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: SheepHunter]
kry226 Offline


Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 5408
Loc: Germany
Originally Posted By: SheepHunter
I have no problem with their stance on free range.

However what I disagree with is when they state:

The Club's records program was established in 1906 as a way of detailing species once thought headed for extinction. Today, the B&C scoring system is used to collect data on free-ranging big game. These data reflect successful conservation efforts, population health and habitat quality. Biologists compare and contrast records to improve local management strategies as well as state and federal wildlife policies.

In my opinion:

Any animal making the B&C record book is that special 1 in a million free range animal. My concerns have always been. How can data collected from such a small portion of a particular species be used to improve management strategies confused2

I believe the B&C minimums are to high to be used as any form of free range management strategy. It is like trying to manage a 4 leaf clover.


O'well you know what they say about opinions.




It's no management strategy, but if you look at the stats over the years, you can easily see the increase of trophies entered in modern times, say, the last 20 years, and extrapolate some indication of the improvement (or lack) in conservation/management.

The Club irks me sometimes with their holier than thou stance on many topics within the hunting community, which I think are more divisive than helpful for our way of life.

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#5482899 - 12/17/14 07:58 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2096
great move boone and crocket... an even more solidified elitist stance towards and already threatened pastime for americans.

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#5482924 - 12/17/14 08:06 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: kyle1974]
BOBO the Clown Online   content
decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 43467
Loc: Metroplex
Originally Posted By: kyle1974
great move boone and crocket... an even more solidified elitist stance towards and already threatened pastime for americans.


They could care less about our private property rights.

We need to becareful what we support

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#5483259 - 12/17/14 10:09 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: BOBO the Clown]
Grosvenor Offline
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Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 1353
Loc: Portland, Texas
here we go...

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#5483314 - 12/17/14 10:22 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: kry226]
BOBO the Clown Online   content
decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 43467
Loc: Metroplex
Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: SheepHunter
I have no problem with their stance on free range.

However what I disagree with is when they state:

The Club's records program was established in 1906 as a way of detailing species once thought headed for extinction. Today, the B&C scoring system is used to collect data on free-ranging big game. These data reflect successful conservation efforts, population health and habitat quality. Biologists compare and contrast records to improve local management strategies as well as state and federal wildlife policies.

In my opinion:

Any animal making the B&C record book is that special 1 in a million free range animal. My concerns have always been. How can data collected from such a small portion of a particular species be used to improve management strategies confused2

I believe the B&C minimums are to high to be used as any form of free range management strategy. It is like trying to manage a 4 leaf clover.


O'well you know what they say about opinions.




It's no management strategy, but if you look at the stats over the years, you can easily see the increase of trophies entered in modern times, say, the last 20 years, and extrapolate some indication of the improvement (or lack) in conservation/management.

The Club irks me sometimes with their holier than thou stance on many topics within the hunting community, which I think are more divisive than helpful for our way of life.


A result of TDM principles and research brought to light by the ones they despise....oh the irony

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#5483320 - 12/17/14 10:25 AM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
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Registered: 02/16/11
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Loc: Annetta TX
popcorn
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#5483897 - 12/17/14 02:40 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
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#5484297 - 12/17/14 06:10 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
don k Online   content
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I better look in the cupboard for some corn. This may have some legs.
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#5484370 - 12/17/14 06:38 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
kyle1974 Offline


Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 2096
FYBC!!!

there. I said it.

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#5484379 - 12/17/14 06:41 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: don k]
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Originally Posted By: don k
I better look in the cupboard for some corn. This may have some legs.

i'm all ears flag
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#5484791 - 12/17/14 09:48 PM Re: B&C Scoring of Captive Deer [Re: FordEvangelist]
schmellba99 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 178
Loc: Gulf Coast, Texas
So educate me on the hate for B&C.

I am not now, nor ever have been, a member and honestly do not know the back story.


Edited by schmellba99 (12/17/14 09:49 PM)

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