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#5468082 - 12/09/14 05:27 PM Remington Long Range 7mag
Dove Murderer Offline
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Registered: 11/11/14
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Gentlemen and Ladies,

Good afternoon. I'm a long time lurker, this is my first post, finally decided to join. For a little background, I'm from Houston, live in Cypress, and have hunted and fished my whole life. I primarily bird hunt these days, mainly due to time and family constraints, however deer, hog, and varmints are my favored targets. I'm in the banking business, commercial loan officer.

Back to the topic, I bought a Rem 700 Long Range in 7mm rem mag today. For reference, it's a heavy barreled, (26 inch), free floated long action fitted into a B&C M40 stock with the adjustable trigger. Prior deer rifles were 30-06, 270 wsm, and also currently have a 300 wsm.

I'm trying to decide on the scope and then loads I'll use, I do not hand load. Budget is ~1,000 for the scope, leaning towards the Nightforce options. I'm really torn with deciding on a load. Part of me is really intrigued with light, fast loadings, such as a 120 grain ttsx at ~3,500 FPS. However, I understand that much better options exist for true "long range" shooting, like 168 or 180 grain Berger offerings. Knowing that my shots will likely be sub-400 yards on Tx whitetail, hogs, and varmints, what would y'all recommend?

I would post pics, but even at 30 years old, I'm challenged with technology, I'll have my wife teach me soon.

Chris

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#5468095 - 12/09/14 05:33 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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168/180gr Berger Hybrid.... or 162 amax are your friends.... NO to light bullets for 600+ and for hunting I always opt for heavy....


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#5468164 - 12/09/14 06:28 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
JRJ6 Offline
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welcome

I would go with anything over 150 grain - my 2 cents.
There are many scopes with your healthy scope budget. I would go see them and then decide which one you like best

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#5468181 - 12/09/14 06:39 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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I'd slap a vortex 4-16 or a 6-20 on that bad boy! How's the stock feel compared to the sendero one?
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#5468184 - 12/09/14 06:39 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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Oh heck you're out of my range, dollar wise.
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#5468308 - 12/09/14 07:43 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
FiremanJG Offline
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A third of the battle of shooting precision is the ammo. A third is the optics. A third is the rifle. These days, therifles usually will handle the task just fine. For 400 a 168 Berger will be great or a 162 A-max. The trick is that you should consider loading your own ammo tuned to the rifle. That takes care of 2/3. The last third is the glass. In budget, but will do the work is Vortex Viper PST or SWFA house brand SS. 400 yards is not long range, and 400 yards is but a chip shot for a 7 Rem Mag. I nearly touched off a round today on a rock at 60 yards past a mile with a 7 Rem Mag just because I could.
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#5468482 - 12/09/14 09:09 PM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
Dove Murderer Offline
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Registered: 11/11/14
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Thanks for the replies.

As a background, I originally planned on a full custom, but could not justify the cost at this point. I may have a brake installed, the action re-worked, and a trigger installed in the near future.

Bullfrog, I've not held a sendero in awhile, but I think the B&C stock is a little trimmer with more of a Weatherby-like butt. I like it, as a package I think this gun is hard to beat when compared to the sps long range versions or sendero, cost wise, ($740.00). Of course, time will tell accuracy-wise.

While I'd love to reload and understand the importance, time and set up costs are prohibitive at this point with two youngsters at home. Any recommendations on factory loaded options pushing the amax or Berger, such as hsm?

What are your thoughts on the Nightforce SHV line in a 5x20x56? Looks like they can be had for a tad over $1k. How would that compare to the Vortex?

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#5468782 - 12/10/14 06:50 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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for a tad over a 1K I'd go with the Bushnell Elite tactical DMR you can find a new one with the 5mil per rev knobs and be just fine. Glass is excellent and mechanic a spot on. For under a 1K the Vortex is very serviceable.

Liberty optics generally has the best deals when you call

or here

http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-elite-tactical-3-5-21x50mm-rifle-scope.html
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#5468792 - 12/10/14 07:08 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
dee Offline
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The Bushnell Elite have great glass for the price. Ammo will be your downfall. I would do custom ammo by Chad for your best results.
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#5468814 - 12/10/14 07:18 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
FiremanJG Offline
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I like Mils much better and that NF doesnt operate in Mils. This week I'm hunting canyon country for Mule deer and am using my Vortex Viper PST. No complaints.
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#5468828 - 12/10/14 07:24 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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7 rem mag = fast. I would recommend something other than the amax or berger. They are designed with BC in mind and down range performance at much longer, read slower, impact velocities. Everyone fancies themselves a long range shooter, but if you going to be doing shorter range shooting with a 7 mag lighter constructed bullets as stated above may not be a great choice.
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#5468835 - 12/10/14 07:28 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: redchevy]
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Berger's website explains the VLD is designed to penetrate 2-3" and grenade. I've killed an elk at 200 yards and whitetail at 100-150, all DRT. But I get your point, specially simce you're such a Partition fan. They've been getting the job done for a looooong time.
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#5468858 - 12/10/14 07:43 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
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You have experience with them, I do not. My concern is at 3000+/- fps you may not get the 2-3 inches they are intending. All im saying is match your tool to what you doing. I wouldn't want to shoot a deer at 800 yards with a partition tsx or any bonded bullet either.
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#5468874 - 12/10/14 07:52 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: Dove Murderer]
bside Offline
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Registered: 06/10/14
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Loc: DFW
What is the twist on your barrel?

If you don't reload, Nosler loads the 168 Accubond long range (BC of 0.652) for 7Mag in a factory load . That should serve you well.

others:

168 Berger

180 bergers if you have a 9 or tighter twist

162 AMAX

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#5469190 - 12/10/14 10:06 AM Re: Remington Long Range 7mag [Re: redchevy]
FiremanJG Offline
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
You have experience with them, I do not. My concern is at 3000+/- fps you may not get the 2-3 inches they are intending. All im saying is match your tool to what you doing. I wouldn't want to shoot a deer at 800 yards with a partition tsx or any bonded bullet either.


Agreed.
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