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#5465121 - 12/08/14 12:32 PM Shooting a Doe
gasman777 Offline
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Registered: 08/11/14
Posts: 41
New to deer hunting, I've never shot a doe because my logic told me...."why would I shoot the baby makers?"...if I pass on the does then I'll have more deer. Then I started researching into deer management, etc. and realized too many does are a problem too.

So the questions, rut is over where I hunt and I still haven't shot a doe:

1. Should I forget about shooting a doe this season since rut is over....seems like I would be shooting a potentially knocked up doe...

2. If you're staring at 5 does for example....3 does and 2 fawns, what would you do? Shoot the oldest one? Does that leave the 2 fawns potentially unsafe since you might be shooting their Mom? Sorry I'm a newbie.

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#5465134 - 12/08/14 12:37 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
jtprocaddie Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
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Loc: Houston, Texas
First check to see if your county requires a special permit to shoot antler-less after Thanksgiving weekend. If they do it is too late to apply for one. Also some counties have a late season for antler-less only. so check into those regulations first.
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#5465137 - 12/08/14 12:38 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
rytheguy84 Offline
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Registered: 11/04/14
Posts: 232
Loc: Lockhart, tx
Any doe you see right now is fine, fawns no longer need there moms help but id shoot biggest one or one that keeps acting spooky

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#5465142 - 12/08/14 12:39 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
BigBucky2014 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/14
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Loc: Cypress, TX
1. My rule is never shoot an antlerless deer that's alone. It's too difficult to judge their size. I always wait until there's at least 2 and shoot the biggest one. Fawns at this point can survive on their own.

2. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a doe at this point in the year. Many states have a doe only season in January, but you could be shooting a pregnant doe.

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#5465149 - 12/08/14 12:42 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
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Doe is a Doe the young ones are old enough to handle themselves either way. Really need to know what kind of numbers and ratios your area has to justify it but if your seeing plenty of deer all the time taking a doe isn't going to show you any affect imo.

Oh and it takes two to tango.....
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#5465154 - 12/08/14 12:43 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: BigBucky2014]
jrgocards Offline
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Originally Posted By: BigBucky2014
1. My rule is never shoot an antlerless deer that's alone. It's too difficult to judge their size. I always wait until there's at least 2 and shoot the biggest one. Fawns at this point can survive on their own.

2. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a doe at this point in the year. Many states have a doe only season in January, but you could be shooting a pregnant doe.



My thoughts exactly - good chance that a single doe will actually be a nubbin buck. made that mistake once.

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#5465163 - 12/08/14 12:47 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: Navasot]
redchevy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Doe is a Doe the young ones are old enough to handle themselves either way. Really need to know what kind of numbers and ratios your area has to justify it but if your seeing plenty of deer all the time taking a doe isn't going to show you any affect imo.

Oh and it takes two to tango.....


Yeah pretty much this^^^

Funny how nobody thinks about the bucks when they say they need to save the baby makers (Don't think momma could do it all by herself roflmao ) as they tag two/their limit of bucks every year.


Edited by redchevy (12/08/14 01:13 PM)
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#5465198 - 12/08/14 12:57 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
CharlieCTx Offline
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Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 774
Loc: Flower Mound, TX
If you're going to enjoy the bounty of your harvest, I see no reason not to shoot your state alloted limit. There's a reason (in OK anyway where our lease is) it's 2 to 1 during the regular season and a special season around Christmas for two more Doe.

I'd say most don't take their Doe allotment as they're waiting for the big Buck to appear from the bushes.

Charlie

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#5465209 - 12/08/14 01:01 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
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Loc: Wise County Texas
I remember back in the late 70's through the 80's, Central Texas had the mindset of save the does (the baby makers), some LO had a no doe harvest rule even. I remember going to Llano one time, a bizzilian small deer, graze line in the trees and small bucks, it was like the whole area was a chut'em up day lease, as far as bucks where concerned.

Now that LO's are doing more doe hunting, based on surveys, or observation, the ratios are getting in check, the carrying capacity of the land is better and now you see some terrific bucks coming out of the Llano country.

The larger the land you control the better, knowing what you actually have on your land as Navsot said, would truly give you a game plan. Takes a good amount of real estate and constant monitoring to actually "manage" whitetail IMO, more work than most are willing to do.

See 5-6 does and you need the meat, I'd take the oldest looking one, or at least a mature doe as the fellas said.
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#5465216 - 12/08/14 01:04 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: rytheguy84]
gasman777 Offline
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Registered: 08/11/14
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if fawns no longer need mom's help....does this hold true on say opening day?

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#5465223 - 12/08/14 01:07 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: rytheguy84]
KG68 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/09
Posts: 6054
Loc: Goldthwaite,Tx
Originally Posted By: rytheguy84
Any doe you see right now is fine, fawns no longer need there moms help but id shoot biggest one or one that keeps acting spooky



I like this kinda thinking. Shoot them old snorters. cheers grin

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#5465230 - 12/08/14 01:11 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
ChrisB Offline
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Registered: 12/20/06
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Loc: Prosper , TX
Originally Posted By: gasman777
if fawns no longer need mom's help....does this hold true on say opening day?

I have always heard once their spots are gone they are old enough to manage on their own.

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#5465238 - 12/08/14 01:15 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
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Loc: Wise County Texas
Originally Posted By: gasman777
if fawns no longer need mom's help....does this hold true on say opening day?


Have to use your best judgement. I often see young deer (late born). This year we went into deer season and I had two fawns still sporting a few spots. Personally, (if I was doe hunting) I'd pass on that mamma because she is likely young and "came in" late last year. I don't have to have deer meat to survive, or bonify a lease payment, so if in doubt, I will pass.

Bottom line IMO though, if you want a doe, take what you think is the best choice within your management ideals and don't worry about the details after you pull the trigger, that solves nothing at that point, just enjoy your harvest.
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#5465255 - 12/08/14 01:22 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: KG68]
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Originally Posted By: KG68
Originally Posted By: rytheguy84
Any doe you see right now is fine, fawns no longer need there moms help but id shoot biggest one or one that keeps acting spooky



I like this kinda thinking. Shoot them old snorters. cheers grin


Yup, them stomping and snorting does are the first to go.
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#5465262 - 12/08/14 01:29 PM Re: Shooting a Doe [Re: gasman777]
rattler03 Offline
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Registered: 02/22/14
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If you're seeing a lot of does then it won't hurt anything to take even a few. In some cases it might even help.

I'm hardly seeing any does, so I think that this year I won't take any. Every property is different, so if you got some does I'd take one or more.
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