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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 07:13 PM
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Pens around feeders is best idea yet!!!
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: cos]
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12/06/14 07:23 PM
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Pens around feeders is best idea yet!!! works on hogs & a cow easier ta trap. bail hay, range cubs corn. anchous ta see how they handlle it.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 07:57 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Stickchunker]
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12/06/14 08:19 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut. k=1,000 right? hate it whin they went metric
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/06/14 08:24 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut. k=1,000 right? hate it whin they went metric so if i goes ta de lumba store & tells em i wants some kellogs dey gona gives me 1,000 e-logs
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 08:24 PM
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/06/14 08:54 PM
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Hunt n Fish
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I thought you had a problem!
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/06/14 09:29 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut. k=1,000 right? hate it whin they went metric so if i goes ta de lumba store & tells em i wants some kellogs dey gona gives me 1,000 e-logs Hey colt.45 - what's the first derivative of wild cow? Prime Rib
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: swmays]
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12/06/14 09:40 PM
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Hey colt.45 - what's the first derivative of wild cow?
Prime Rib
i'm not good with algebra
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/07/14 12:53 AM
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Hey colt.45 - what's the first derivative of wild cow?
Prime Rib
i'm not good with algebra
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/07/14 02:09 AM
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/07/14 02:16 AM
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twas n me prime back then, broke thee ribs, ya it derivative that cow wild
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: 1860.colt]
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12/07/14 02:32 AM
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/07/14 02:54 AM
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Been there, Done that!
I would have no problem taking one of the cows for the meat. If you decide to go that way- let me know. I have a pretty tight work schedule, but could be there ASAP.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/08/14 04:30 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut. Was thinking the same thing - didn't realize there was that much contiguous undeveloped land in Montgomery County that wasn't NF land. My guess is that it is the area just north and slightly west of Humble that has the San Jacinto running through it, and Spring Creek on the southern border. That's about the only area that fits the bill. I'll help the OP out!
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: schmellba99]
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12/08/14 05:26 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.
Problem: There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.
Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.
I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.
I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.
So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I: Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass? Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back? Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?
What are your thoughts?
Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat. 14k Acres in Montgomery county!?! Please tell me where this is at, i have lived here my entire life, and didn't realize there was a piece of land that big left around here. But like BOBO and others have said, build you a corral, feed'em up and wait them out, then load them up and haul them out of there. I can get some hands together and help you out for a cut. Was thinking the same thing - didn't realize there was that much contiguous undeveloped land in Montgomery County that wasn't NF land. My guess is that it is the area just north and slightly west of Humble that has the San Jacinto running through it, and Spring Creek on the southern border. That's about the only area that fits the bill. I'll help the OP out! Yup.
Aaron
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/08/14 05:43 PM
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Stickchunker
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Gotta be around Bender Pasture, and if that's the case, i am pretty sure those are Lee Cattle Company cows!
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/08/14 06:22 PM
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Why would you worry about killing deer when you can kill ribeye on the hoof?
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/08/14 07:51 PM
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First, I would get the land owners permission "In Writing," that I could remove the cattle and then do as others have suggested and go to local auction and find me some cowboys with a trailer. With the current price of cattle, you would most likely be able to pay for your lease for many years to come if you go 50/50 with the cowboys. Heck, they are even solving you problem so a 40/60 split would be fine for me. As others have stated, killing one cow is not going to help your problem at all.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/08/14 07:59 PM
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I don't know whats out there any more than any of the rest of us, but from what I get out of what the op says these are cattle that are "feral" like feral hogs. I doubt your average coral would contain them.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/09/14 06:48 AM
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Shoot em at the feeder, winch em up on a trailer, take em to the butcher.
Get a group together to split the processing.
I'd have no problem dropping a cow.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: BradyBuck]
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12/09/14 12:18 PM
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Shoot em at the feeder, winch em up on a trailer, take em to the butcher.
Get a group together to split the processing.
I'd have no problem dropping a cow. Just so you know, you should check with your local processor first. I know from experience that a number of processors will not take cattle for butchering unless they are alive when they arrive. Unless it is some Texas regulation I'm not sure why, especially since they take deer and hogs dead.
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Re: To shoot a cow?
[Re: Gangly]
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12/09/14 12:47 PM
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When I lived in Alaska I had to plan on possibly harvesting a 1500 pound bull moose if the chance came. It did not, but people do it all the time many miles from civilization with minimal tools and equiptment.
Beef taste good........
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Re: To shoot a cow?
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12/09/14 02:15 PM
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KG68
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Shoot em at the feeder, winch em up on a trailer, take em to the butcher.
Get a group together to split the processing.
I'd have no problem dropping a cow. Just so you know, you should check with your local processor first. I know from experience that a number of processors will not take cattle for butchering unless they are alive when they arrive. Unless it is some Texas regulation I'm not sure why, especially since they take deer and hogs dead. Most are equipped to handle heavy carcasses on the kill floor only and not for handling unloading of dead animals. Deer are lighter and can be handled by employees.
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