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#5454570 - 12/02/14 05:27 PM banning lead shot altogether?
aquaholic1822 Offline
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Registered: 07/30/13
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is that what TPWD is beating around the bush?

TPWD Study

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#5455834 - 12/03/14 10:09 AM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
wal1809 Offline
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They arent beating around
around the bush. Shooting steel at doves is no doubt around the corner.
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#5455898 - 12/03/14 10:39 AM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
sallysue Offline
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Registered: 02/21/06
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Loc: Belton Tx
And thats what I read to and I aint happy

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#5456082 - 12/03/14 11:58 AM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
MAJKF Offline
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Registered: 09/09/13
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I too am against the potential lead ban. Comes a point it is just silly.

That being said...steel 6's and 7's worked great on dove during early teal, and Wally World had 'em on sale! It was shell for shell cheaper than the 100rd lead bulk boxes! Once the split opens back up it'll be all steel again just to keep the duck option open.
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#5456113 - 12/03/14 12:09 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
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Registered: 04/19/07
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Worthless research

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#5456142 - 12/03/14 12:21 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
Navasot Offline
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Registered: 09/22/11
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Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
ill still shoot birds either way... long as I still get lead buckshot
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#5456149 - 12/03/14 12:23 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
TXPride Offline
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Registered: 12/11/07
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I can see the point. I don't want to think about how much lead is put on a good dove field by a bunch of hunters each weekend. Let alone each year, and after 10 years, it doesn't take a scientist to figure out that's a lot of lead out there...
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#5456161 - 12/03/14 12:27 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
jdk1985 Offline
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Registered: 08/15/11
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It won't keep me from shooting birds

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#5456176 - 12/03/14 12:32 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
sallysue Offline
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Registered: 02/21/06
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You watch how high shells gonna be And another thing is a lot of the problem is we are running short on lead here in the US China what heard has been buying it up

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#5456359 - 12/03/14 01:49 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
wal1809 Offline
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I will not fight it. I csn only imagine how much lead we have spread out there. I was apposed to the waterfowl lead ban. The tech has changed so much i know how deadly steel is now days. In a way i hope they make the change.
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#5456396 - 12/03/14 02:05 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
schmellba99 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/14
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Loc: Gulf Coast, Texas
Until they can actually put science and statistics behind their studies, I take exception to it.

And this study only stated the obvious - that using either larger steel shot or comparable sized shot moving faster than their control load will kill doves. Well, no kidding - that's physics at work.

The hazardous effects of lead in the environment are way, way, way overrated. And if this passes, there will be a several year long shortage on shells while manufacturers have to retool from lead shot to steel shot. And the prices will go up, because they always do when legislative changes are forced on an industry.

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#5532816 - 01/10/15 01:54 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
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Registered: 10/22/07
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A little late to the thread, but I just stumbled across this article in the Houston Chronicle about the study in the original post.

http://www.chron.com/sports/outdoors/article/State-of-dove-hunting-in-midst-of-change-5955811.php
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#5533262 - 01/10/15 05:51 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
Barny Topwater Offline
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Registered: 11/22/09
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Reloading Non-tox is a PIA but if the laws change I'll just have to get good at it. I just don't like shooting steel through my twice barrels and the exotic stuff is over a $150 for like 10 LBS of shot. For you non-reloaders non-tox is lighter than lead so it has to be weighed in like the powder
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#5533292 - 01/10/15 06:04 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: Barny Topwater]
Ben Dover Offline
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Registered: 11/30/14
Posts: 26
Originally Posted By: Barny Topwater
Reloading Non-tox is a PIA but if the laws change I'll just have to get good at it. I just don't like shooting steel through my twice barrels and the exotic stuff is over a $150 for like 10 LBS of shot. For you non-reloaders non-tox is lighter than lead so it has to be weighed in like the powder


I've loaded steel for a few years.

Load the first by weight. Count the pellets.

Used an empty centerfire primer container, with the appropriate number of holes taped off, to scoop out shot. Much faster than weighing anything.

Steel 6's kill dove with authority.

I prefer lead to all other, but do believe the tree hugging hippies will win this one in the end.

Crane hunting without Lead will be a PITA. The extra large steel is a bear to get a pattern out of

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#5533363 - 01/10/15 06:28 PM Re: banning lead shot altogether? [Re: aquaholic1822]
JRR Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 360
Loc: Collinsville, Tx
Stupid.

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