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#5454268 - 12/02/14 02:53 PM nfa trust question
sneakyfletch Offline
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Registered: 07/08/13
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Loc: burleson
just recieved my trust via email i have a couple questions for you guys first i am the settlor and co trustee,wife is the co-trustee and successor trustee daughter is beneficiary do just me and my wife need to sign and also do you have to have two witnesses sign besides the notary.second i am doing a form 1 for a suppressor do i need to list this on the assignment sheet or wait till i get my stamp.third if i efile do i still send copys of the trust via mail to atf first time so i am a little confused all help would be appreciated thanks
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#5454287 - 12/02/14 03:04 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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The attorney that did your trust should be able to answer all your questions about who signs and notary. It should clearly state on the signature pages who signs what line and where if not then ask them to designate the signature lines more clearly. I can answer the FORM 1 question but are you building a suppressor I am assuming or buying a suppressor?
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#5454297 - 12/02/14 03:08 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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Building a suppressor and I didnt have a attorney prepare it did the 199trust route
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#5454305 - 12/02/14 03:11 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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#5454315 - 12/02/14 03:14 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
sneakyfletch Offline
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#5454607 - 12/02/14 05:42 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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Originally Posted By: sneakyfletch
Building a suppressor and I didnt have a attorney prepare it did the 199trust route


Did you like 199 trust? I am in the process of buying a suppressor and trying to decide how to open up a gun trust. A lawyer quoted me 300 dollars, silencer shop also has an online form for around 130.

Wad the 199 trust easy to use?
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#5454613 - 12/02/14 05:45 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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I'm pretty glad I used a lawyer. I just call him up anytime I have a question about how something is supposed to be.
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#5454623 - 12/02/14 05:49 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
Originally Posted By: sneakyfletch
Building a suppressor and I didnt have a attorney prepare it did the 199trust route


Did you like 199 trust? I am in the process of buying a suppressor and trying to decide how to open up a gun trust. A lawyer quoted me 300 dollars, silencer shop also has an online form for around 130.

Wad the 199 trust easy to use?

Don't you know that if you don't use an attorney the ATF will bust in your door, shoot your dog, and you'll end up in the pokey for 10 years?!?!
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#5454629 - 12/02/14 05:53 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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Dont mind the dog part
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#5454893 - 12/02/14 07:37 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
Originally Posted By: sneakyfletch
Building a suppressor and I didnt have a attorney prepare it did the 199trust route


Did you like 199 trust? I am in the process of buying a suppressor and trying to decide how to open up a gun trust. A lawyer quoted me 300 dollars, silencer shop also has an online form for around 130.

Wad the 199 trust easy to use?


I used them and yes they are quick, answered all my questions and very easy to use.

As for signatures, 199 trust can answer those questions as well. You will need 2 witnessess to sign when you get it Notorized and no one signs until you're in front of the Notary.
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#5455290 - 12/02/14 10:43 PM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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A notary is THE witness. Why would a trust require other witnesses as well as a notary?

You will have to scan the trust and send it electronically when you fill out the Form 1 on the ATF website. I think the files must be less than 3MB so you might have to break it up into parts if you don't have a way to shrink the whole thing. I did mine as pdf files and had to split it up into 3 parts since I don't have a way to shrink the large file. Didn't have a problem getting mine approved.
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#5455506 - 12/03/14 07:35 AM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
sneakyfletch Offline
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thanks and mine is 17 pages total so when or if i get approved do i need to have all 17 pages on me when im in possesion of nfa item or is it just one document with the stamp thanks
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#5455513 - 12/03/14 07:39 AM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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All y'all getting those fill-in-the-blank trusts are braver than I am...I started to go that route, but just a little bit of research showed me that the extra $150 to $200 it costs to have an NFA trust prepared by a licensed attorney is money well spent. A legitimate attorney familiar with NFA trusts should answer all questions you have, present and future, as part of the cost of the trust and most will review your Form 1 before submitting it. The extra cost is worth the peace of mind when you consider the alternatives.
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#5455755 - 12/03/14 09:30 AM Re: nfa trust question [Re: sneakyfletch]
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These are all questions you should be asking your lawyer that prepared your trust. Don't take someone on the forum's word on it. Your felony defense can't be "Bob on the forum said it was OK." Because then you're in trouble and now Bob is in trouble.
Yes you need to carry a full copy of the trust with the nfa item.
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#5455760 - 12/03/14 09:31 AM Re: nfa trust question [Re: Budgeteer]
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Originally Posted By: Budgeteer
All y'all getting those fill-in-the-blank trusts are braver than I am...I started to go that route, but just a little bit of research showed me that the extra $150 to $200 it costs to have an NFA trust prepared by a licensed attorney is money well spent. A legitimate attorney familiar with NFA trusts should answer all questions you have, present and future, as part of the cost of the trust and most will review your Form 1 before submitting it. The extra cost is worth the peace of mind when you consider the alternatives.


I have not found an attorney for less than $300. I have talked with other people and they say the attorneys do the same thing, they take a template and insert your info. To my knowledge, the only difference is you can sue an attorney if they mess up where as you are S.O.L. if you do it wrong on your own.
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