I said that at one time. Then I tried hunting them. A horse they ain't.

hmmm... not sure petting zoo lions released to be shot counts as conservation.

hmmmm.... but leaving them in a Zoo to walk in circles the rest of their life is conservation.


Association of Zoo’s and Aquariums; AZA-accredited zoos and aquariums provide society the opportunity to develop unparalleled personal connections with the animals in their care, they also serve as conservation centers that are concerned about ecosystem health, take responsibility for species survival, and make substantial contributions to research, conservation, and education

Reintroduction programs for animals raised or rehabilitated in AZA-accredited zoos or aquariums are powerful mechanisms used for stabilizing, re-establishing, or increasing in situ animal populations. AZA and the International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources/Species Survival Commission play key roles in advancing the science of reintroduction programs that AZA and its accredited zoos and aquariums participate in. Numerous reference materials and tools have been developed to advance reintroduction programs

As the nation's largest and most effective animal protection organization, The Humane Society of the United States has been a leading voice for animals for more than 50 years. We believe in a truly humane society, and work to reduce suffering and create meaningful social change for animals in every way possible -- from providing direct care and response in the field when animals are in crisis, to working with corporate leaders and lawmakers to adopt policies preventing animals from ending up in distress in the first place.

***Apparently they do it more effectively, since that's what it says on the www.

nope and a terrible attempt to try to twist that.

Hard to believe how many people believe everything they hear or read. Talk about leading a lamb to slaughter. CBS loves you.

Did you hear about Next weeks program on 60 minutes "Children around the world are starving while Texas hunters use corn to bring Bambi within arrow range".



I'm against "canned hunts" It's just I know the difference . I hunted on a 250,000 acre HF ranch in Africa once. Guess to some it was "canned". Crap my professional hunter must have been an idiot because I had to walked and hunted my a$$ off. Never even saw a Lion. Heard some roaring at night though.

That time I went dove hunting in Argentina and our camp was protected by armed guards... I was canned.
An 8x10 cell to a human is canned. 2,000 acres HF is a resort.

There is a middle ground however who decides how much land that is. "The Government" now gentleman the more and more we allow that to happen we are canned.

STOP THE PETTING Close down the petting zoo. Fine the petting zoo for selling Lions. Kill (I mean put to sleep) the cubs when they get to big, make coats from their hides for the poor, sell the meat. Send them to your house so you can hand feed. Raise our taxes so the United States can send $100,000,000.00 to feed the lion. Maybe a lion retirement center. How about extinction or confinement in a zoo cage.("Look Johnny there's the King of Beast") Stop Lion hunting everywhere.

Come on let's hear some solutions. PETA has one "Stop Hunting in any form Period"

P.S. Maybe issue a Hunters Trappers license. People shoot coyotes, raccoons, wolves and rabbits in a trap.

So you're comparing a 5 acre trap with tame lions to a 250,000 acre ranch in Africa...Nice try. Give the man a ribbon.

This post has got me thinking about how to make a little extra "walking around" money. I've got two old Border Collies, they're starting to be a pain. Either one, $2000 dollars. Archery or gun, or ball peen hammer to the head while holding out doggie treats. Any takers?...Maybe I should post this in outfitters section?

So you're comparing a 5 acre trap with tame lions to a 250,000 acre ranch in Africa...Nice try. Give the man a ribbon.

Yes. Probably more like 2 acres. You obviously didn't watch 60 minutes...BTW, they were supportive of the Scimitar horned Oryx hunting in order to preserve the species. Lara Logan had a segment a few months ago that portrayed Texas in a good light, as far as wildlife conservation goes. So much for the tree hugger "liberal" image that you portrayed.

There's some stuff not far from that on there every day.

Y'all are missing the point-badly. It's not PETA or the anti-hunters who are the issue. Screw them. But it's the non-hunters who will decide the future of hunting. They are the ones watching hunters and forming opinions.

And, like most people, they are pretty disgusted with pen/canned hunting. If we as hunters defend it, we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

We can either police ourselves or end up being policed by others.

If you try and convince yourself they have more of a problem with canned hunts than they do with hunting over feeders you are either incredibly blinded, or have never been out of texas. Picking and choosing to what's convenient to you and ignoring the truth is a bit North Korean. Kim Jung Un golfed a 34 on 18 holes the first time he played golf.

Are you and therancher one and the same? Just curious.....

If there was a market and it was legal you might get takers. But it's not legal and there is no market. If you both hate capitalism, China is one flight away.