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Re: The Lion thread
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12/02/14 11:12 PM
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I don't worry about PETA. He shouldn't either. No changing their minds. I worry about the non-hunters whose minds can be changed.
Just making the point if you were worried about them the pens you see every day along every road in TX are way more prominent to everyone than an internet forum for hunters. If a non-hunter makes up his or her mind about hunting by simply driving down the highway and seeing a HF, their idiots. How would they notice their to busy driving while texting or talking on their cell phone while listing to an Obama CD! I've taken a few non-hunters to a "good" HF ranch and your right it changed their mind. They hunt today HF & LF. Why because I made sure they understood there's more to hunting than just opening a gate, or watching a feeder. You would be surprised how little fence they ever saw. I'm sure you still disapprove. So therefore you can have the last word.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/02/14 11:24 PM
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For the love of all things Holy, this thread needs to die.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: Palehorse]
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12/02/14 11:36 PM
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Y'all are missing the point-badly. It's not PETA or the anti-hunters who are the issue. Screw them. But it's the non-hunters who will decide the future of hunting. They are the ones watching hunters and forming opinions.
And, like most people, they are pretty disgusted with pen/canned hunting. If we as hunters defend it, we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
We can either police ourselves or end up being policed by others. I have to agree 100%. The people who participate in canned hunts are a very small minority of "hunters" but they give the anti-hunters the most ammo to use against us. I think it's time that we kick them to them to the curb and say, "We are ethical hunters and real conservationists. They do not represent us, they are not one of us." You do know his definition of canned is anything behind any high fence right?? You and NP can want to kick us to the curb. But you'll wear your azz out trying, and the results will suck.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: therancher]
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12/02/14 11:55 PM
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therancher
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NP stated:
"I have traveled and hunted all over North America. I have heard a lot of criticism about hunting in Texas. In fact, we have largely become a laughingstock. But, NOT because of feeders. Feeders have been common for decades. It's because of the HFs that are all the rage in TX. That's all I hear. We are known as the "canned hunt capital of the world". Makes me sick to my stomach. "
While it's nice and convenient to protect your pet "cheating" by implying it has a lesser impact. You have no facts to back up your claim. The people of 38 states have outlawed hunting over feeders. Not nearly that many have outlawed hf's.
Those facts bit u square in the azz again NP.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: therancher]
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12/03/14 02:01 AM
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Y'all are missing the point-badly. It's not PETA or the anti-hunters who are the issue. Screw them. But it's the non-hunters who will decide the future of hunting. They are the ones watching hunters and forming opinions.
And, like most people, they are pretty disgusted with pen/canned hunting. If we as hunters defend it, we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
We can either police ourselves or end up being policed by others. I have to agree 100%. The people who participate in canned hunts are a very small minority of "hunters" but they give the anti-hunters the most ammo to use against us. I think it's time that we kick them to them to the curb and say, "We are ethical hunters and real conservationists. They do not represent us, they are not one of us." You do know his definition of canned is anything behind any high fence right?? You and NP can want to kick us to the curb. But you'll wear your azz out trying, and the results will suck. My definition of a "canned hunt" would be exactly what they are talking about in the 60 Minutes piece. I have posted a link above to the entire piece if you haven't seen it. Literally raising animals in a petting zoo and then releasing them into an enclosure to be shot is a canned hunt. If you don't do that, then I wasn't talking about you.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: Palehorse]
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12/03/14 02:04 AM
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therancher
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Y'all are missing the point-badly. It's not PETA or the anti-hunters who are the issue. Screw them. But it's the non-hunters who will decide the future of hunting. They are the ones watching hunters and forming opinions.
And, like most people, they are pretty disgusted with pen/canned hunting. If we as hunters defend it, we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
We can either police ourselves or end up being policed by others. I have to agree 100%. The people who participate in canned hunts are a very small minority of "hunters" but they give the anti-hunters the most ammo to use against us. I think it's time that we kick them to them to the curb and say, "We are ethical hunters and real conservationists. They do not represent us, they are not one of us." You do know his definition of canned is anything behind any high fence right?? You and NP can want to kick us to the curb. But you'll wear your azz out trying, and the results will suck. My definition of a "canned hunt" would be exactly what they are talking about in the 60 Minutes piece. I have posted a link above to the entire piece if you haven't seen it. Literally raising animals in a petting zoo and then releasing them into an enclosure to be shot is a canned hunt. If you don't do that, then I wasn't talking about you. Then trust me, you don't agree with NP.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/03/14 03:07 AM
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I don't because I do hunt in other states and the deer hunters I know watch the hunting shows of hunts in Texas and would like to come here and hunt. But that's deer not a lion. And this ain't Africa. It's Texas. So why is our feeders and high fences even part of the discussion?
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/03/14 04:02 PM
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Re: The Lion thread
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12/03/14 05:10 PM
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Every time I see that video I am amazed someone doesn't get shot. I bet they all sat and looked at each other for a few minutes wondering what had just happened.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/03/14 06:05 PM
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He was just coming up to eat out of their hand! Ed
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Re: The Lion thread
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12/03/14 06:19 PM
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therancher
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Definitely a despicable canned hunt.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/03/14 06:42 PM
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I would have just thrown them out instead of trying to clean them.
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Re: The Lion thread
[Re: 7mag]
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12/03/14 07:01 PM
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I saw a high fence in the background.
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