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#5447436 - 11/28/14 04:27 PM Talk to me about suppressors
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I am in the market for a suppressor. A buddy of mine told me that if I don't have $1,000 to spend don't bother. I looked around online a bit and saw some suppressors for around $700.

My question is, is there a good suppressor I can buy for under $1,000? Are the less expensive ones junk?

Also, is there a way I could get 1 suppressor for a 6.5 CM and a .243 win?

Thanks for the help!
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#5447440 - 11/28/14 04:31 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Get a YHM Phantom LT for $600 and tell your buddy he's an idiot. http://www.silencershop.com/shop/yhm-7-62-phantom-lt/

There are many many quality 30 caliber cans out there for less than $800 and very few over $1k.
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#5447448 - 11/28/14 04:35 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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If you get a 308 Win rated can, you can shoot it on anything smaller than 308 with about the same size case. So a 308 Win can you could shoot your 6.5CM and 243, or anything smaller (like a 223).

I just purchased a new one from Templar Tactical (Crux). I bought the Nemesis 30. It's a 6" titanium rated for 300 Win Mag +. I have seen several in action and they are very light and durable. The engineering inside the can is what's the most impressive. Price wise, the cheap one's are cheap for a reason.

http://www.cruxshop.com/nemesis30pms-p/nemesis30-pms.htm
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#5447502 - 11/28/14 05:18 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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The arguably best suppressor is also one of the cheapest, the AAC Cyclone. Price does not necessarily equal quality in the suppressor world. Price is dictated the most by material and attachment system. Thread on cans are the least expensive. Titanium are more expensive.

I have a $550 suppressor and a $900 suppressor. The cheaper one is quieter, stronger, more durable, but rather heavy. The expensive one is shorter, lighter, and slightly louder.

I would never pay over $1000 for a can, it just isn't necessary.

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#5447506 - 11/28/14 05:21 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Does anyone have any feedback on the Bowers units?
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#5447516 - 11/28/14 05:27 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I have a suppressor thats under 1000. Its pretty quiet and I can take it apart and clean it. Downside, its heavier than the 1000+ cans but I really dont mind. I mainly use mine for hunting and range time. I like not taking hearing protection to the stand these days. Deer and hogs have a hard time determining where the shot came from.

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#5447545 - 11/28/14 05:51 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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AAC are under a grand, and very durable. I had to deal with some ammo issues but loving it.
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#5447549 - 11/28/14 05:54 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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#5447699 - 11/28/14 08:00 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Go to SilencerShop.com It's literally a one stop shop for everything you need to know, reviews on silencers and what you need to do to purchase one. I recently ordered the YHM Phantom mentioned above and they were great and keep me updated on where we are in the process.

The cost of the silencer is one part of the equation. You'll need to set up a trust and the ATF stamp is $200 as well. So all in you could be in for about a grand.
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#5447716 - 11/28/14 08:12 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I really don't get all this
Any suppressor I have been around still is like a 22 not quite at all
And do t understand why the AFT has such an hard on for just letting them be its behind me
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#5448316 - 11/29/14 10:21 AM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Thanks for all the info, seeing those prices I am definitely buying one. If I get the YHM suppressor do I have to get the flash hider attachment? Just a little confused, does a gun smith install that or do they screw on the regular threads?

Also, I didn't know about the NFA trust so thanks for posting that. Is it necessary to get a lawyer for this?
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#5448373 - 11/29/14 11:03 AM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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If you get a YHM QD, you have to buy the muzzle brake also. The suppressor will come with one but you will need to buy addition brakes for your other guns you plan to use it on. It installs on any threaded barrel with a wrench. You can buy them in almost any thread pitch.

A trust is not necessary unless your can't get CLEO sign off. Even if you can get the signature I would recommend using a trust as it streamlines the process and allows for more than one person to have access to the items you buy.

A lawyer isn't required to draw up the trust but most recommend using one. I used Quicken Willmaker to draw up a trust but ended up using a lawyer to make our trust because my dad wasn't comfortable with the Quicken version. Put side by side the only difference is the leterhead. YMMV
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#5448497 - 11/29/14 12:46 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Most lawyers that do NFA trusts charge about $300-400. That's a one time cost though. You also have a $200 tax stamp for each NFA item you purchase or build. You should figure those expenses into the cost. You also should consider your price point. With the amount of time and money spent to get into the NFA game, don't let a few hundred bucks keep you from getting what you really want. Are you rifles semi auto or bolt action? The type of mounting system is something to consider. I think the general consensus is thread on is more accurate but QD is easier to move from rifle to rifle. I have a Silencerco Saker 762 (still awaiting stamp) that will be used on all my AR's. I'm planning for either a thunderbeast or other precision can for my bolt guns. If going the QD route you've got to also consider the cost of addition muzzle mounts. For the saker they're about $80 each.
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#5448501 - 11/29/14 12:51 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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There's many benefits of the trust beyond the fingerprinting/chief Leo deal
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#5448510 - 11/29/14 01:02 PM Re: Talk to me about suppressors [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Trust = 150 minimum
ATF Form 4 fee = 200

So add the out the door can price to this and your buddy is pretty close to what the first one will cost.

That assumes the guns you want this put on are already threaded and you don't need a gunsmith to do that. They are cool and super fun, you can shoot without earplugs. It isn't movie quiet but it is significantly quieter.
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