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#5438514 - 11/23/14 11:13 AM "I don't like those Bergers"
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Said a friend on mine. Speaking of the 168's I loaded for him atop Retumbo for his 7 Rem Mag @ 2950 fps MV.

Me- What? Why not?
Him- I killed a doe with it and the exit wound was 6" wide
Me- Did you go behind the shoulder or on the shoulder?
Him- behind the shoulder but I hit a little high.
Me- Did she fall right away?
Him- Heck yeah! She didn't just cumple slowly, she hit the ground like a sack of rocks.
Me- Well heck! What do you expect when you're killing whitetail with an elk cartridge? I'll buy them from you if you want to go to a different bullet.
Him- Maybe I'll keep running them and start killing whitetail with my 260 and keep those for elk.

Thought those that are unsure of using Bergers would like to know about those recent results. 100 yard shot BTW.
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#5438585 - 11/23/14 12:14 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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Well, no offense, but of course she dropped like a bag of rocks. Hit any deer a little high and spine it and they drop like rocks. With a 300WM, a 7MM, 308, or a 223 or any other standard deer caliber.

I'm of course assuming that's what "a little high" meant.

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#5438586 - 11/23/14 12:14 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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that also explains the huge exit hole

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#5438621 - 11/23/14 12:32 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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The old tried and true bullet performance paradigm evolved over years and years and isn't going away anytime soon.
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#5438692 - 11/23/14 01:32 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: jdk1985]
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He hit ribs, not spine. This man has been hunting for 50 years and probably doesn't miss by much if he does at all.
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#5438927 - 11/23/14 04:32 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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I see, my bad. Made the wrong assumption

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#5438933 - 11/23/14 04:37 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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They are bad to the bone, but if you don't watch it you can blow up the guts on one with out hitting that far back.
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#5438952 - 11/23/14 04:44 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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Too dead is not a problem.

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#5439557 - 11/23/14 09:07 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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worthless

On a more serious note, how do they perform at slower (.308) velocities?
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#5439630 - 11/23/14 09:31 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: Cow_doc.308]
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Probably less fragmentation, but still killers.

Run em and find out. They sure fly true...
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#5439722 - 11/23/14 10:00 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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I have seen a .308 with the Berger vids leave a small basketball hole in a hog at 70 yds or so.
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#5439739 - 11/23/14 10:05 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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JG I might just do that. Got any load data for use with varget?
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#5439757 - 11/23/14 10:11 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
worthless

On a more serious note, how do they perform at slower (.308) velocities?


168g berger vld
11/21/2014

could not really even see the entry hole... complete cranial evacuation. they work



Edited by Dave3575 (11/23/14 10:13 PM)

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#5439781 - 11/23/14 10:24 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: Dave3575]
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Lol

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#5439786 - 11/23/14 10:25 PM Re: "I don't like those Bergers" [Re: FiremanJG]
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